No Westwood is the biggest shock for me.

Well he did say last night there'd be some debate from the squad, and for once he got something right.

Kevin Sinfield
Danny Tickle
Jon Wilkin
Jamie Jones-Buchanan

The average brigade.

How Micky Mac is over looked for England is beyond a joke!

The local Warrington paper is reporting that Westwood is out injured.

Thats a crap squad overall.

Wigan would beat the best team out of that squad. At least it proves a point Mcnamara is an idiot.

Leeds have more players in the squad (6) than any other team, presumably it would have been more if McGuire and Watkins were fit. This is becoming totally embarrasing now.

indeed, and what has Carl Ablett ever done to keep getting selected for the squad. He has never been good enough to get in the team, yet he constantly gets in the squad. Rob Burrow too is another bizarre selection.

It is a squad selection that lacks clarity and strategy. If it is a squad for the 2013 World Cup and beyond, as we are constantly told, then there are at least 10 players in there that shouldn't be.

Honestly can't believe it. The squad on the whole just shows how bad a coach McNamara is; he's picking on reputation, not form and who deserves to be in there.

Not just because Micky and Fuzzy aren't in there, I've not got my bitter hat on, but common surely it's common sense to pick the current most potent centre-wing partnership in the league? Charnley isn't top try scorer just off his own bat. Darrell Goulding more than deserves a place in that squad.

As for the Burrow inclusion, I can understand that. He can turn a game off the bench. Surely there's room for McIlorum as well though? Has to be the current form player in his position and he gets better every week. Can't understand why he was in the last squad but is now playing even better and isn't in this one. Complete lack of any consistency and awareness.

All in all, poor effort McBanana. Very poor.

Suits me that. Less England players in the squad= less injuries. We have 4 in the exiles as well don't we?

After all, I want a fully fit and uninjured team to turn up against Widnes and dismantle them after last time. If we can put 50 past Leeds we have the capability to put 100 past Widnes! Payback!

i love how on twitter last week even richie mathers, ryan atkins, leroy cudjoe amongst others were saying micky mac should start ahead of roby as he has been the best hooker in the league all year and he doesn't even get in the khights squad let alone the full squad mcnamara is a joke. and no goulding? who is gonna play centre in the knights rhys evans????

And the powers that be wonder why a lot of fans dont take the international team in our sport seriously enough.

And that sums up perfectly why England just aren't good enough.

As someone who has valued International Rugby over club rugby I am very annoyed at this selection.

Goulding and Micky have been 2 of the outstanding players regardless of position in SL.

I crave an competitive international game, but whilst we have our current coaching set up that will never happen.

Disgusted is not the word, worst thing is this Mug is going to lead us toward the next world cup before he gets the push at least.

Stunning how someone as clearly limited as him at club level is given arguably the most important job in rugby league.

These are opinions exactly. And the RFL will wonder why only 10k max will turn up next week to watch it!

By the way, where is O'Loughlin??? Wilkin, JJB and Sinfield ahead of him?? He must be injured, if not, another joke of a selection.

Or you can't read. Lockers is selected.

And the RFL wonder why we don't get a full ground for an International fixture. Try appointing a coach that picks form players and not old has-beens, in these strapped for cash times people are going to think twice about going to watch some 2nd rate game due to a crap selection process by a coach who couldn't pick his own nose.

Quite amazing that they've both missed out on the England squad, but to both miss out on the Knight's squad is downright unbelievable.

Hopefully this snub spurs the two of them on to an even greater level.

The Knights squad is just nonsense though. They've basically kept the basis of the squad they picked at the start of the year regardless of the form of the players in that squad. Many have been dropped by their club, or haven't been playing regularly or simply aren't in form. There are some excellent young players outside of the Knights squad who would really benefit from being included who aren't presumably because someone somewhere is too lazy to pick a Knights squad that includes young players on form.

Remember a few years ago there was that talk that Super League clubs should be paid a fee or given salary cap exemption for each player they produce that is in the England squad (or GB as it was then). From what I remember Leeds and Wigan were quite keen on it (for obvious reasons). How political would it have made the squad selection now though....if Wigan were losing out on money for McIlorum not being in the squad etc.

Funny, I don't remember that proposal at all (or Wigan and Leeds agreeing on anything with regard to the salary cap)

But even if I did, in this context it would just be hypothetical silliness and totally irrelevant to the main issue which is that, yet again, England are going to miss out on form players because a head coach who isn't even good enough to manage a club team has got it embarrassingly wrong.

presumably McIllorum will be playing for Ireland against the Knights?

Cant believe these two are left out the squad and i am shocked a few more youngsters not in that squad.He is a coach.I was complaining about Betts, but after seeing this squad he is a joke and i rather have Betts at Widnes.

Aparantely micky knows what he needs to do to be part of the Engl;enad squad, bloody hell, as if the lad hasnt done enough already.

Rob burrow picked ahead of micky mac is a joke.

Mcnamara is a joke.

'There are one or two things he needs to fix up'

Does McNamara want him to completely change his game or something?

Yes play for Leeds. Seems the only way in play poorly as you can and still make the England sqaud.