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| Quote ="NickyKiss"
If Hocks 'b' sample comes back negative i'm a chinamon!'"
Classic sig material if it turns out to be the case.
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"His brother in law has well and truely sold him down the river with this one. No chance of any appeal'"
Don't talk wet. Hock has held his hand up anyway - he may be dense but he knows he's been caught red handed. Brown is speaking out of concern.
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| Quote ="JTB"Don't talk wet. Hock has held his hand up anyway - he may be dense but he knows he's been caught red handed. Brown is speaking out of concern.'"
Hock hasnt made a statement as far as im aware.
I thought the club website said no further comment will be made until after next weeks sample.
Maybe my first statement wasnt right, what i was meant to say was this confirms guilt.
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| Quote ="JTB"Don't talk wet. Hock has held his hand up anyway - he may be dense but he knows he's been caught red handed. Brown is speaking out of concern.'"
How as he held his hand up?
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| Quote ="gateaux"so if he wasn't from Wigan and was an average player would you say the same?'" if it was sum1 like riddle or tim smith then id obv want em out !!
but hock is better then both and a wigan lad so we should stand by him what if he took 2nd test and was negetive ? im sure we'd all be sorry and what if that happends and we stupidly release him and wire,saints snap him up ?!
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| Young George Flanagan got sacked by Batley last week after testing positive for cocaine and getting the 2 year ban.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Surely then, by law of averages we should have a decent number of RLFANS posters who are also taking it?
Anyone going to admit to it?
Also, would you say it's an 'age' thing?
Neither myself, my mates, nor my close work colleagues take it (as far as I know), yet I've heard rumours of some of the younger ones at work (20-25 year olds) doing regular drugs on nights out.
Beer & Women was my drug when I was 25.'"
i was around in the 60s, early 70s when drugs were the "in" thing....lsd, coke, marijuana, speed, uppers, downers, and owt else you could try.
i prefered booze......and refused drugs many times.
i admit to smoking one joint of best morrocan but it had no effect as i was p!shed as a f@rt at the time.
so i never bothered again.
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| I think in light of the damage that has been caused to the clubs good name the management / directors need to close out any possibility of other players / staff being found to have done the same thing.
The club should automatically test all employee's for compliance.
This is now happening on construction sites where random drugs and Alcohol checks / test are now commonly undertaken.
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| As long as he hasnt taken anything similar in the mean time, id bet money on his B test coming back negative or inconclusive.
Its fairly quick moving out of your system and can be detox flushed , the only ones who it would still show in the system are very frequent users.
Also depends on what level they test it at, if its urine of mouth swab then that is the weakest detection after that length of time
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| Depends what's written in the players contract of employment in terms of internal club testing. Having a SL contract means they have to take a UK Sport test if asked.
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| Yeh Hes A Profesional but for all i dont think hes this stupid to take drugs tbh i think there could even be good reason what if he went to a pub or sumat after the england game what if some1 spiked his drink ,for all we know hock could be getting punnished for no reason ,im not saying he did not but could be possible ?
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| "ATTENTION!!! IAN LENEGAN!!! ARE YOU LISTENING?!!!"
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| Quote ="Hutchie"As long as he hasnt taken anything similar in the mean time, id bet money on his B test coming back negative or inconclusive.
Its fairly quick moving out of your system and can be detox flushed , the only ones who it would still show in the system are very frequent users.
Also depends on what level they test it at, if its urine of mouth swab then that is the weakest detection after that length of time'"
the a and b tests are taken at the same time, the b sample is frozen until it is needed (when the a sample positive).
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| Quote ="loyal18"if it was sum1 like riddle or tim smith then id obv want em out !!
but hock is better then both and a wigan lad so we should stand by him what if he took 2nd test and was negetive ? im sure we'd all be sorry and what if that happends and we stupidly release him and wire,saints snap him up ?!'"
The club will release him if his b sample tests positive (and rightly so). I'm sorry but I couldn't care less if he is a wigan lad if he's in the wrong he should be punished. The stance you are taking is a load of bollox
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| I bet Lenagan rues the day he bothered buying this club
It's more fooking hassle then it's worth.
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| Quote ="loyal18"Yeh Hes A Profesional but for all i dont think hes this stupid to take drugs tbh i think there could even be good reason what if he went to a pub or sumat after the england game what if some1 spiked his drink ,for all we know hock could be getting punnished for no reason ,im not saying he did not but could be possible ?'"
He was tested after the salford game and he ain't been punished yet! If the b sample also tests positive he should be banned fair and square
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| Quote ="Deano G"No. He faces a serious charge but innocent until proven guilty should apply.
If he's cleared by the hearing then he should be considered innocent and will have my full backing.
If he is found guilty then he should be sacked and never play for Wigan again. Simple really!'"
But will he have the full backing of the majority of fans. Hock does something stupid and everyone wants him out. If he gets through this unscathed how will he feel if he wears the cherry and white again. seems like another one who'll come back to haunt us.
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| Quote ="loyal18"if it was sum1 like riddle or tim smith then id obv want em out !!
but hock is better then both and a wigan lad so we should stand by him what if he took 2nd test and was negetive ? im sure we'd all be sorry and what if that happends and we stupidly release him and wire,saints snap him up ?!'" Sorry but where he is from, how good a player he is and anything else should become irrelevant if his B sample comes back positive.
Keeping a player just because they are a local lad is a ridiculous idea
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"I think in light of the damage that has been caused to the clubs good name the management / directors need to close out any possibility of other players / staff being found to have done the same thing.
The club should automatically test all employee's for compliance.
This is now happening on construction sites where random drugs and Alcohol checks / test are now commonly undertaken.'"
By the time they tested them it would be out of there system anyway even if they were all at it.
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| Quote ="gateaux"Sorry but where he is from, how good a player he is and anything else should become irrelevant if his B sample comes back positive.
Keeping a player just because they are a local lad is a ridiculous idea'" i aint saying keep him im saying stand by him his b test may come back negative
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| Quote ="loyal18"i aint saying keep him im saying stand by him his b test may come back negative
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dont want to burst your clutching at staws bubble
but the club would not have outed him if that was even a remote possibility.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Young George Flanagan got sacked by Batley last week after testing positive for cocaine and getting the 2 year ban.'"
And they have promised to support him and have him back.
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| Quote ="chapster"dont want to burst your clutching at staws bubble
but the club would not have outed him if that was even a remote possibility.
soz'"
Thought the RL had suspended him, and not the club.
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| Depends on the test.
Use the hair follicle test and any residue will be visible for as long as the hair has been growing - Weeks or even months.
Yes, you can "beat" the test with a special shampoo, but that will only cover your tracks for 8 hours.
Therefore, you get them all in early one morning, then do your training, have lunch, have an extra training/swimming/weights session in the afternoon, and after 9 to 10 hours, you test them.
For those that shave their heads (whether to get around the test or not), pubes, leg-hairs, moustaches all carry the same results.
Intrusive - Maybe
Necessary - Definitely
Lenagan should make this happen, as the ONLY players that would not want to be tested are those with something to hide.
If the players have any integrity as a group, they should offer to be tested in this way, to prove that they have nothing to hide.
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| I fully agree, I suspect there is more than one, there normally is.
Now is the time for IL to act and get a grib of this club.
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