He sits behind me. Went very quiet after kick off.

Some of the posts on that site are the funniest things I've read in a long time.









Some of these are great post. I didn't think humor existed below 80 IQ.

You read quotes like those, and the mind boggles that some rugby fans still defend them.

Defend what?

Now let's see - people who live in Belgium.

Who do you think?

I'm not sure who/what "them" is/are, hence why I asked the question. Should be pretty easy for you to qualify.

Well, let me answer by way of asking you a few questions.

Is it or is it not true that Wigan RL fans have occasionally (more than occasionally in actual fact) been attacked or scoffed at in their own town by other so-called Wiganers?

Is it or is it not true that Cockney Latic regularly features posts from people who do nothing but slag Wigan RL off?

Is it or is it not true that the 'Latics Fanatic' rag-mag once defined itself by making non-stop verbal attacks on Wigan RL, Wigan RL players and Wigan RL fans?

Is it or is it not true that Latics fans in general have devised certain derogatory terms for local RL fans, which have now almot passed into local parlance ‘egg-chasers’, ‘fat inbreds’ etc?

Is it or is it not true that Latics fans regularly used to spend all day sabotaging Wigan RL fan websites until technology overtook them?

Is it or is it not true that Latics fans have for years deluged the local press with anti-Wigan correspondence (until the local press finally decided that enough was enough and stopped printing them - though, to be fair, I wouldn't expect you to know that latter detail).

Is it or is it not true that Latics fans have made repeated calls for Wigan RL to be thrown out of their own stadium?

And in the light of all that, don't you think it highly unlikely that this ongoing progrramme of anti-Wigan RL acitivity might be a bit much for 'just a handful of unrepresentative trouble-makers'?

I appreciate that you support Wigan Athletic, but you also claim to support Wigan RL. When the sort of anti-RL e that I'm responding to gets posted on this forum, it genuinely surprises that you never appear to at least sympathise with those Wigan fans who are irritated by it.

Perhaps we should all just shut up and pretend it isn't happening, eh? Keep our gobs shut on our own message board?

Couldn't you just have said the "Latics knuckle dragging feckw[ii[/its"? I haven't seen one person on here defend "them".

I didn't realised how important my support, for those irritated by the uneducated ramblings of brain dead Latics supporters, was to you. You only needed to ask.

Yes - Always has been an 'interesting' forum.
Wonder if the people running it still have their old PARROT PHOTOS

The usual glib response, I see.

Okay, we'll cut it there while we're not making any ground.

Suffice to say this, I don't personally go on Latics sites to wind people up. I'm not interested in Latics. Whether they win or lose is irrelevant to me. But quite a few Wigan fans have been well cheesed off in recent years with the non-stop abuse they and their club have suffered in their own town because of Wigan Athletic's presence. That may not be important to you, but maybe it should be. It's probably a key reason why Wigan Athletic will never have full support in Wigan and may well, in due course, dwindle to insignificance again.

Not glib, just to the point which is something you might want to consider.

So just to clarify, as you seem to be dodging the response with the usual War and Peace post now someone has asked you to clarify. Who on here has defended whom? Short to the point answer would be great - thanks.

Well they're doing a good job of hiding the fact. I haven't seen one post that even borders on anything close to criticising it. They're obviously just as happy as JamesC to be seen as 'knuckle dragging s' to quote a more reasoned Latic supporter



For my own part I have no interest in the Latics as a sporting club which, in some respects, is a shame as I am a general 'sports fan' and exactly the sort of person this club and it's JamesC-like supporters are doing a good job of alienating rather than attracting. My uncle and grandad are/were supporters from the days in the lower leagues though and, I have to say, for those type of supporters I feel sorry that this animosity exists. C'est la vie I suppose.

Bondi Warrior - who seems like his heart is in the right place, I have to say - made a clear statement that the "vast majority of Latics fans" do not support the handful of idiots who routinely abuse Wigan RL. My experience is that it's a lot more than a handful of idiots, and that the vast majority of Latics fans (who I have met) are pretty negative towards Wigan RL.

He was therefore, whether intentionally or not, defending a significant number of those responsible for giving our club and fans a hard time.

Now that I've answered your question, perhaps you can answer at least one of the questions I put to you? Let's start with: Should we on this message board just shut up and say nothing in response to the abuse we get on other message boards? And, in repying, try to see the bigger picture and forget that you're a Latics fan who finds this animosity uncomfortable.

I have to say that is one of the most bizarre, tenuous of links I think I've ever read on here.

Not that I need to defend what he said but to quote him in full so it's not taken out of context, then twisted to the extreme with a lot of poetic licence thrown in for good measure, he said:



and your particular take on this is:



Seriously, is that the best you can do?



No I don't think people should shut up and say nothing.

I'm a Wigan RL fan as well as a Latics fan and I don't find the animosity uncomfortable, I find the whole victim complex on both sides incredibly sad and immature. However at the same time if people make ludicrous statements like:



I'll call them out and let them dig a huge hole for themselves, to prove to everyone else they were talking bollox.

I can see that it's important to you to keep this pinned down to what's actually been said on this particular thread. That allows you to talk about tenuous links, etc. But the problem's a lot wider than that, as you're well aware even if you pesist in refusing to admit it.

But we're talking round in circles here.

I feel aggrieved when I see or hear Wigan RL being slated by Wigan folk who follow Latics. You apparently don't. I'm frustrated to then hear Wigan RL fans making excuses for them, or even being understanding about it. You apparently aren't.

That's fine. You won't change me, and I clearly won't change you.

But it isn't just a few knuckle-draggers, as I suspect you know. (I notice this is an accusation I've made that you've studiously avoided commentng on).

Anyway, now that I've got your permission, I'll keep posting my views regarding this matter. But not today. It's all been said now, and it's getting boring.

bit of banter between fans is nothin to worry about. i've got plenty mates who follow latics. they give me a bit of stick and i give a bit back, but at the end of the day i don't give much of a toss about latics, and they don't give much of a toss about us, any pi$$ takin is just a laugh. when it gets as bitter and hateful as the guys on there and a few people on here, then it's just sad really. they have a relegation battle to worry about, and we have a team that looks like it has the potential to win something for the first time in years. we should both have better things to talk about than how mean the and nasty the other side are and quoting idiots off each others boards

TBH i probably do defend them, but the its more to with the fact that i cant be bothered with these arguments between our clubs and i defend my mates who are latics fans, as they are decent fans and i genuinely feel sorry for them. Even they believe this allienating of fans is damaging their club. I just dont like to rise to those type of idiots you see on that forum, i just get a good laugh out of some of the comments, it can be quite entertaining.

I must admit that bar the odd comments when wearing my Wigan Jersey and listening to thse idoits online i really havent seen much else. So i may be wrong when i say its a minority and judging by some peoples experiences on here im probably oblivious to alot of it (thats what 2 years away can do to you, lol). I will defend my friends as i know they are proper sporting fans, but thats about it. I dont think its fair to generalise all fans of a club, as even we have our fair share of idiots (albeit a minority in my experience).

You were the one who quoted Bondi in this thread to desperately try to qualify what you put - you show where any regular poster on here has defended the type of comments posted from Cockney Latic. It's only when pulled up for making that erroneous generalisation that you've gone for the usual victim complex bringing up all the usual drivel spouted by those Latic fans who have obviously got to you - isn't that their aim and you've simply fallen for it?

Sitting on both sides of the "divide" I think those that have the chip on their shoulder about one thing or another to do with the other club are pretty pathetic, but those that get wound up by it (which you clearly do) simply fuel it and really do need to get a grip.

I'm with bondi and andy wigan/leeds on this,it seems some supporters on both sides of the coin (a minority) are hell bent on continuing this divide in support out of a sheer misguided hatred of each others teams
If you want to read a forum with a more balanced,witty,tongue in cheek view of all things wigan go to mudhutsmedia.co.uk now I'm not saying there are no anti rugby posters on there but in general you'll get a more open,honest and long standing view on latics supporters feelings and you definitley won't find any pro-whelan stuff

And prior to the Latics getting into the Premiership the vast majority probably supported Utd, City, Everton or Liverpool.

It's baffling where these die hard Latics suddenly appeared from in 2005. 'DW Cloning Facilities' perhaps???

Kslm you could label that accusation at 90 per cent of sports teams
By the way dean karnazes is a legend

Now that you cant disagree with, but its the same with most clubs that rise the into the higher leagues, especially as quick as they did. It was obvious more people would go watching them in the prem.

I think Warriors are the only team that gets worse and crowds get higher.

The website is actually a v good read, made up of the real fans of WAFC that seperated along time ago when the JCL breed infiltrated cockneyliar. These guys will openly admit their dislike for WRLFC BUT will give reasons for it (the Lindsay era) and I aint got a problem with them one bit. I dont think youll find these men verbally abusing kids in ASDA just for wearing a WRLFC, in fact most of them watched WRLFC in the early 80`s.

Its the numpties since 2004/05 AND WE ALL KNOW WHO THERE ARE that jumped on the Greed league train and all of a sudden hated WRLFC. Ankers the lot of 'em

Quote ="thirtytwoyears_mufc_nowwafc"As long as the results are similer as last weekend it will be a good sporting weekend UP THE TICS'" www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/vie ... f=5&t=2875 Unnnnnluuuuuuucccckkkyyyy!!!!

Quote ="thirtytwoyears_mufc_nowwafc"As long as the results are similer as last weekend it will be a good sporting weekend UP THE TICS'" www.cockneylatic.co.uk/forum/vie ... f=5&t=2875 Unnnnnluuuuuuucccckkkyyyy!!!!

As I said matty b ignore cokneylatic/toddler.net for a more reasoned witty and oldschool latics website go to mudhutter the other two sites contain the more childish type of poster who likes to stir things