Hardly. You've already confirmed this:-

Continued to be arguably England's No1 centre and one of the very Few English players who didn't do their reputation any harm at the WC in OZ???

Not a problem, we got form for breaking the cap

Transfer fees are a fairly unusual thing in the modern game

To expect Lenagan to be stumping up big transfer fees is unrealistic.

The only major fee we paid in the DW ML era was for Fielden, and that involved highly unusual circumstances.

If Wire are demanding players plus a fee for Gleeson then IL is perfectly entitled to back down if he feels the asking price is disproportionate.

you're still half way there if goulding is on 60k.

Goulding, Prescott and McIlorum all got significantly improved deals at the start of last season

Considering he got the number 3 jersey and the average wage is 64K then its probably about right

Spot on.

Transfer fees are only payed for players under 25 i think

nope

So, the upshot is, Gleeson isn't coming.

Credit to the person who started the rumour.

Err...why? If a player is available but under contract clubs will invite offers and will want a fee. I am pretty sure fees have been paid for players moving to other clubs pre this season. Why is it unrealistic to expect our multi-millionaire owner to stump up some cash for a transfer fee?



And?



Of course he is but none of this has anything to do with your previous reply does it



What we as fans want to see is IL not being a cheapskate when it comes to fees but why you feel it is important (which I assume you do) IL does not pay a high fee for a player I don't really understand.

If it came out of his pocket it would not matter if he paid £5 or £500,000.

Unfortunately I believe any fee paid for a player will be paid by the Wigan club and not come out of IL's pocket as he strives to run the club solely as a self financing business. The consequence of this is we are far more likely to be outbid on transfer fees than we once were. This is, IMO, a problem.

This is a sports club not a business and while on a day to day basis it should not need a subsidy from IL to survive when a top class player becomes available for a transfer fee a cash injection from IL so we can bid for the player is what is required IMO. I get the impression that at the moment as soon as a fee is mentioned we walk away as the club (as opposed to IL) is not sitting on a big positive bank balance.

Dave

What a suprise.

At least let them drag it out until tomorrow.

Anybody got that Mason mk II feeling?

If IL as come out and denied it i think its safe to but this to bed now..Unlike MO he seems to tell it how it really is.

Give it time eh?

All he's denied is that a deal is in place - which could still mean they're working on one.

Do you still truely believe its going through.

Hes not denied nothin has he? from what i've read all he has said is 'no comment'

OK

I've not seen anything.just been told hes denied something

We could all cling to that straw. Its a well constructed rumour but I just don't see it. It has had too many variables and such.

Doesn't it concern you that we aren't that bothered to lose him whilst you all seem quite excited at the prospect? Or are you thinking Noble can get a bit more out of him.

We don't have a good attacking right centre and haven't for a good while
Gleeson is the best English centre around in my book and in most people's on here
Not to mention the fact a centre is one of the 3 positions we need to strengthen in

Fair enough, a change might do him good hometown and all that. I actually would welcome Mathers as daft as that may sound to the Wigan faithful mainly due to having total faith in Tony Smith.

Cling to what straw?

I was just stating a fact