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| Quote ="Nikaed"Sam Tomkins is World Class, give him someone better than brown and he'll be great. Goulding out of his depth.'"
I can only conclude that you are trolling. Goulding has not been out of his depth at all. He has saved at least 2 tries when there was a lack of numbers on his side. He has also made plenty of yards from dummy half, as he does at Wigan. He couldnt have done any more so far.
I think Tomkins and O'Loughlin have been very good. O'Loughlin has to play 6 the next match as Brown is just a waste of a player.
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| This is awful You know its crap when the only positive thing we can take out of that half is a break by O'Loughlin.
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| This referee is terrible. He's made so many e calls!
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| Very poor stuff so far. Terrible offloads, far too many unnecessary handling errors and a real lack of creativity from the hb's. So far only Ellis looks able to penetrate their line. They just don't look like a 'team' and more like 17 SL players who knew they were beaten before ko. Let's hope for better in the 2nd half, although I can see NZ running away with it to nil.
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| and thats y widdop will never replace slater at the storm been very poor for the last 2 games
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| Horrible performance, we used to look like a team who are not quite as good as Aus and NZ, no we are just miles behind. The defending at times is shocking and we are clueless in attack.
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| Game on!!!.
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| WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brilliant England!!!! Why havn't you been doing this all game?
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| what a team try!
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| England need to keep going wide.
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| I'm glad Robinson was moved to 7. Sam needs to play at 6 if he's in the halves, not first receiver.
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| Awesome kick! TRY maybe!
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| Thought that was a try myself, now it's game over.
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| I would like to congratulate the ref on ruining Englands chances. Ok we have been dominated but we were still in the game and in my opinion we have been stitched up. The first try was a mile forward. Several other passes in their own half have been way forward and missed.
The tap restart when the kiwis knock it out basic ref error. Brown try, without a doubt, slow it down and it looks bad at full game pace try.
I will never know why we try to play ourselves though when we are a better side when we let the ball go.
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| Quote ="Katrina"I'm glad Robinson was moved to 7. Sam needs to play at 6 if he's in the halves, not first receiver.'"
Fully agree. Such a waste playing there.
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| Got no one that can kick either...
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| Well the highlight of the game for me was Robinson getting chased by Hohia, thought id left chubby browns UFO dvd in or the benny hill music to come on. Cant wait get hommered next week.
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| Most shocking thing is that for the first time ever I'm jus not really bothered we lost. I know we will get beat next week so we are out. Just depends how PNG go on now, I really hope they can do something.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"In what way is Goulding out of his deapth? He has done nothing wrong.
Atkins and Shentons position in defence is poor and creating space for NZ outwide.
Crabtree should be playing, not Griffin, simple.'"
I must have missed him being there for the first try.
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| NZ were awesome - can see them winning the whole thing
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| Quote ="Nikaed"I must have missed him being there for the first try.'"
It was Goulding who made the tackle before the try came... he was the first marker. Had he not come out of his line to make that tackle they would of gone over. Don't know which centre it was, but they failed to fill in.
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| Quote ="Nikaed"I must have missed him being there for the first try.'"
If he didnt have to make the tackle before he would of been. Watch it again hes in at marker, no comunication so nobody filled in and the line didnt slide.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"If he didnt have to make the tackle before he would of been. Watch it again hes in at marker, no comunication so nobody filled in and the line didnt slide.'"
Fair enough.
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| Dont want to ever wish an injury on a player, but if Atkins is injured lets send him home and call in Gleeson. He should have been in from the start. I thought the ref was shocking though, missed a few forward passes from NZ, the missed drop out and also letting the NZ players lay on a bit longer.
And Dave Woods commentary is awful, would rather have Eddie and Stevo, at least they understand the game.
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