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| Quote ="warriorweed"Listen I am in neither camp with Noble, I am not a hater, nor am I a believer - I think regardless of the current situation he needs to be given to the end of season - changing coach now is likely to do no more good than harm.
However, where i take issue with your post is the part that i have quoted which shows how inconsistent we have been under Noble and how far our expectations have sank when a winning run of 4 games is one of our best - especially as one of them was against a side who hadn't won a game at that point.'"
And the one who was top of the league dont forget.
Expectations have sank because of how the club was run in the past we are back on our road to recovery in a very hard competition now days any team can beat any other these days. Times have changed and everyone need to move on we cant live in the past we had it to good for to long and it nearly closed our club we have to work within the rules we have now and go forward from here.
And i am sure when Saints good run comes to an end which it will there supporters will be saying just what ours are now.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"How can we have gone backwards Dave we finished higher in the league last year than the year before and got to within 80mins of the GF now in my book that is not going backwards.'"
Each year since 2006 we have won fewer league games each season and in 2008 we were knocked out of the cup earlier than in 2007 and we finished up with a negative points difference. We exited the play offs at the same stage in both seasons so no difference there. So when you look at the overall picture at best you can say there has been no improvement and at worst we have gone backwards.
Quote If we win on Friday we an go 7th in the table on GD with the way things are going this year we can still make 4th in the league and possibly the GF we are still in the CC and could get to the final.
Noble is the best British coach by a county mile things are just starting to gel all the hard work in the background is starting to come good we are playing more attacking football and our defense is getting better.
We should at least let him see the job through for all the hard work he has put in.'"
His contracts up and it is often said on here players should not be judged on their last seasons performance but how they went over the period of their contract. Why should Noble be any different? In 2007 and 2008 we have had to put up with some of the worst RL I have ever seen Wigan play. We have had some equally awful performances so far this season.
I think out best chance is in the cup because you only need to string a few wins together to get to the final (two more) so even a side as inconsistent as ours stands a chance of getting to Wembley but given our league form we seem as far away as ever from getting the consistency that guarantees a good league position so a good chance in the playoffs. That is after just over three years with him has head coach and IMO that isn't good enough for a new contract to be offered regardless of any cup run.
As to him being the best British coach I don't care where he comes from if he isn't doing a good job which means delivering results after three years he needs to be replaced.
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| Quote ="exileinpietown"What kind of educated Wigginese language is this?'"
He was being sarcastic..although why he bothered is beyond me as it seems to have been lost on most people!
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| Quote ="DaveO" I don't care where he comes from if he isn't doing a good job which means delivering results after three years he needs to be replaced.
Dave'"
In your opinion just glad we have someone who owns the club that is forward thinking
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| If it's in the Sun that he isn't going, won't it be pretty certain that he will?
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| Quote ="Father Ted"If it's in the Sun that he isn't going, won't it be pretty certain that he will?'"
Thought the thing that got you in the Sun was large frontal prospects
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| =darkblueI'm not really against Noble going, but it's who's going to replace him that concerns me most
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| noble is linked with the roosters job in league express as well. seems be gathering momentum this rumour and we all know noble has had his eye on the nrl for a while now
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| Quote ="lothlorian"noble is linked with the roosters job in league express as well. seems be gathering momentum this rumour and we all know noble has had his eye on the nrl for a while now'"
Let's be honest, if you were him, wouldn't you snatch their hands off?
A few years ago, Brian would have secured an Aussie job fairly comfortably, but, after three less than glamorous years at Wigan, he must have thought he'd blown it big style. I certainly did.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"Let's be honest, if you were him, wouldn't you snatch their hands off?
A few years ago, Brian would have secured an Aussie job fairly comfortably, but, after three less than glamorous years at Wigan, he must have thought he'd blown it big style. I certainly did.'"
Kids left home, sunny climate, working in a game I love, none of the pressures of the head coaches position...
I'd snatch their bloody arm off
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| Quote ="Pemps"Kids left home, sunny climate, working in a game I love, none of the pressures of the head coaches position...
I'd snatch their bloody arm off'"
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| Quote ="St pete"I don't think any wigan fan good hook any saints fan at the mo in your current situation.
Its a shame nobody to go down this year because wigan would be well in $hit'"
I bet you don't go many games do you? You sound like that typical Saints fan that gets aggressive to the other teams. Much like a football fan does. You are exactly the kind of fan that endangers the brilliant reputation that RL fans, bar Hull/Hull KR fans, have.
Butt out, shut up and go home.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"He was being sarcastic..although why he bothered is beyond me as it seems to have been lost on most people!
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As the saying goes: If you show me an intelligent stains fan I will show you a pig with the remarkable ability to fly.
And for the Stains fans that read this a dumbed down version:
Pigs will fly before we see a clever stains fan.
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| seems like theres some ar$es twitching in east hull
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"In your opinion just glad we have someone who owns the club that is forward thinking'"
Everything posted on here is a matter of opinion isn't it? Just like what you posted above.
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| If Noble is out of contract this season and IL wants to review things at the end of the season. Then hes taking Noble for a mug.
At work you get an offer from another firm guranteed 2-3 years of work. Your present employer tells you oh by the way Brian i might give you a new contract then again it depends on your performance over the next few months.
Seriously what are you going to do. Sit and hope or get something else lined up. Noble is no mug.
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| I aint a Noblr lover nor hater. I know I'll get slated for this but I personally think he hasn't done too bad since he took over. Saying we have gone backwards is very wrong imo. In the darkened days of Millward, I certainly remember two matches against Stains and Leeds with a total score of 145-0 not in Wigans favour. Surely that couldn't be worse. And I am sure that when Milward was in charge being 80 mins away from the GF would have been seen as a massive succes.
What is evident currently is that we do not have anyone who can keep a cool head and marsahal a game like Faz used to and certainly Trent did in his first season. The basic skills such as ball carrying is almost non-existant. Is this the coaches fault or the players? Another debate.
One final thought about consistancy what about the other SL teams? With the exception of Leeds and Stains how does everyone else match up?
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| Not sure whether this would be good, but a coaching clear out is needed.
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| Stick to your own board!! Smith the best 6, doubtful.
Quote ="St pete"LMAO
Last week you was all saying Wigan should offer him a new contract!
Also smith was greatest stand off in super league. Great in attack and sorted his defence out.
Now you lose it's all changed AGAIN!
I know every team has idiots who change the mind every time they win or lose but you lot are unreal!!!'"
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| It's on the SMH site that the Roosters are to give Fittler more time.
They say Noble is not on their radar.
I'm sure someone will provide a link.
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| Quote ="SuneJim"=darkblue but it's who's going to replace him that concerns me most'"
This is what also worries me, many people on here beg for Shaun Edwards - but would we just suddenly turn on him should he not improve things?
Who's saying he would improve things? After all, I'm not naive enough to think Shaun Edwards hasn't had any RL experience - far from it but flip the coin has he had any real RL coaching experience? Simple answer, No.
That's not to say he wouldn't be a success - he could take over and win us back to back GF/CC's, but appointing a relatively un-experienced RL coach is a high risk.
IF Noble were to leave, Wigan would need an experienced and proven RL coach to take over.
I feel for BN because its obvious he has put in alot of time and effort into stabilising the club and changing things for the better - most of which aren't known to us fan's. I think Noble has laid some superb foundations for the building of something special at Wigan - it's just a question of if he will ever get the chance to see his hard-work and determination pay dividends.
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| One defeat and Noble has suddenly taken us backwards? ( i think that comments a bit extreme 2 b honest)
My overall opinion is that I can see Nobby going only because he has a burning ambition to coach in the NRL>
We were beaten quite unfortunately in my view last Friday and have been in a good run of form till that point. Wether or not we have turned a corner and getting better only time will tell, .
I can't think of many teams in the league that are on a consistent run of form at the moment?
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| I don't know the INS and outs of what's going on with noble and wigan.
IMO if wigan was sure noble was the man to take you forward then they would just offer him a new deal.
And if noble wants to stay as he says he does then he will sign.
So what's the problem?
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