I was only quoting an article done with the DW Stadium's Groundsman, why would he tell that story if it wasn't true?

I have do not doubt that grass doesn't grow as quickly in the said months but if you go to the farm up at the top if Gidlow Lane, they sell and grow grass all year round without the aid of sun lamps.

Anyway back to the point I was trying (unsuccessfully) to get across, it is the groundsman that said this, not speculation, hype or anything else.

Then maybe all football teams should employ them ( the farmers from the top of Gidlow Lane).
I do not know why they should tell a story that could not be true it is beyond me.

All i know is that you would not be allowed to build a stadium or any building on old sewage tanks without removing them first. Not only does sewage produce methane gas that could build up and explode if not vented. But during this process actually reduces its mass so causing subsidence. Anyway no point getting into all the technical details it was possibly something said to excuse the poor drainage that was put in.

In fact there is an area in front of the tunnell that was mentioned. It has sunk over 18 inches since the ground was built and has been packed up with extra earth to get it level, apparently when the undersoil heating is on in winter, you can still see the frozen patch that exists there due to the heat not being able to get through as effectively. I guess this adds further weight to the article being more true than most of the rediculous theories that have been spouted in the past.

Like you said though, neither of us are experts and I know I can't be bothered wasting my time researching what is right so I'll leave it there.

Where did i say that i said i cannot be bothered in going into all the technical detail that is totally different.

And as for the tunnel area has sunken 18inc then there would be a cavern forming under the west stand. So its a good job it was built on a raft or the ground would have its safety certificate removed by now. Then there is the under soil heating if its true then the pipes for the heating have sunk the heating would not work as pipes would not stretch 18in without cracking. I would love to see the article in question and see who wrote it because if this is true then i will be calling for a safety check on the West Stand as that is where i sit and would not like it to collapse while i am in it.

Did you miss the =#FF0000'in front of the tunnel' bit i.e. pitchside, not 'in the tunnel' or 'under the Springfield Stand'!!!

I would have to assume that the foundations of the Stand are quite safe, it is the ground in front of the tunnel that subsided around that depth in 11 years.

What's with the melodramatic =#0000BF'If this is true then i will be calling for a safety check on the West Stand as that is where i sit and would not like it to collapse while i am in it.'

I will go through my history to try and find said article so you can chase the author instead of me, OR if you are going into a panic about it you could ask the groundsman, as it was supposed to have been him that was interviewed.

No i did not miss the in front of the tunnel bit. But if that has dropped 18in in 11 years that is a lot of subsidence and the ground around it also drops as it falls into the hole created. I dont panic at all my friend but if this was true then a survey would have been done on the stand before now. I do know all the stands are built on concrete rafts due to the marshy ground as my Father in Law worked as a surveyor for the metro at the time. I think this could be some sort of wind up by whoever wrote it by the way a link to the interview wold be nice.

Your not mate......unless your from Skem

GOLD!

I dont think it would cost much to kick us out of our 'home' say it cost us 200k a year for us to rent the stadium so times 50 years would be around 10mill which is not enough for us a new home. I do not hope this happens as we will end up at leigh

would be enough with the council funding like the football got also lottery money like the football got. Also they could give us back the money we put into the ground from the sale of central park which was about 10 mill after paying of the debts.

Whereas it would cost the FA nothing to kick the Lactics out and make everyone happy. Ideal solution.

Don't worry we won't be evicted even if this proposal is put through by the PL. I doubt that they would be able to instantly eject a club by changing the rules so Latics won't be given a "get rid or you're out" ultimatum. Once relegated they just wouldn't be allowed back in.

Whatever anyone thinks of Dave Whelan he is a savvy businessman and will realise now that

1) People in Wigan are not going to start supporting Latics in such numbers as to make them sustainable in the top flight without constantly treading water at the bottom end and having him dip into his pocket simply to keep going

2) Latics are not an appealing investment prospect for a rich person/consortium and so will not be taken off him by a rich benefactor

3) Once Latics succumb to the inevitable relegation crowds will plummet and so they will have a stadium that their income will not sustain

Once they are down he/they will need the income from Wigan RLFC to help them stave off financial meltdown. Whelan & Latics know they cannot survive in the stadium alone and so will not throw out their best option for future income in order to chase what is a pipe dream of being considered more than a 3rd tier club that just happens to have a team of players that is better than that level at the moment.

Finally someone talks sense.

Exactly. This Prem League proposal is all about finding an excuse to get shut of clubs like Latics.

Exactly.

A Latics supporting pal of mine always assures me that any pitch-related negativity appearing in the national press, even if superficially it appears to be a pop at Wigan RL, is really aimed at Wigan Athletic. He reckons the powers-that-be just don't want them any more, and are putting on the pressure any way they can.

Don't know whether that's true or not. But it's a Latics fan's view.

Clear case of an Oxymoron?

I have found an article that mentions it here: [urlhttp://www.cockneylatic.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=560:the-dw-stadium-pitch-will-this-be-the-last-relay&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=50[/url

It would make sense, if only for this reason:

[urlhttp://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/attendance?league=eng.1&seasontype=4&cc=5739[/url

Makes even more sense when you look at the other leagues and 10 clubs in the championship and 3 in league 1 have a better average than Latics.

surely if they did kick us out, the rfl would buy us a lovely new one

Just look at the pitch at halifax now, but look at the state burnley fc pitch looked last week with just football being played there

Who's going to kick us out? We have a 50 year lease.

it was a joke you were supposed to laugh

I know, but people keep saying it as if it's a possibility. It isn't.

I'm perhaps no-one to talk. I've bought into the football 'threat' in the past. But even I now think we should put this tired old cart-horse to bed.