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| Some serious burying of bad news going on when we release a statement so late on a Friday night.
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| I signed up for a season ticket for this season but I was emotionally absent during this evenings poor showing . Any chance I can break the agreement and have my money back please ?
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| I can understand the decision - some might say quite a few of our players who've returned from the NRL have been a bit stale at times. Might be tough to motivate yourself. Not many people would return to the exact same role at a previous workplace after moving on.
It's a bit disappointing but there are other players out there.
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| “Finance wasn’t an issue”
Ok George
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| So now we move on and stop the ridiculous nrl get out of jail free card. You sign a contract with wigan and you stick to it. If not, then legal action follows
Time to stop the soft touch mentality
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| Wigan lad wanting to play for Wire for a “new challenge” and not the extra salary haha.
Always liked George and will continue to. Not issues with him taking the big deal in a career where you could get a bad injury at any moment.
It’s funny that with Charnley, Bullock, George, Kibula and Hughes. Warrington have more Wigan academy lads in their team than Wire academy lads.
Parody club who’ve spend years trying to buy a title.
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| Didn’t Rogues make a bet with someone on their site on GW signing for us? ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif)
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| Quote ="[Gareth"So now we move on and stop the ridiculous nrl get out of jail free card. You sign a contract with wigan and you stick to it. If not, then legal action follows
Time to stop the soft touch mentality'"
Agreed the boat has to stop somewhere and it may as well be now
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Didn’t Rogues make a bet with someone on their site on GW signing for us?
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He sure did rofl
No doubt GW to wigan was a done deal...
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| Quote ="NSW"Wigan lad wanting to play for Wire for a “new challenge” and not the extra salary haha.
Always liked George and will continue to. Not issues with him taking the big deal in a career where you could get a bad injury at any moment.
It’s funny that with Charnley, Bullock, George, Kibula and Hughes. Warrington have more Wigan academy lads in their team than Wire academy lads.
Parody club who’ve spend years trying to buy a title.'"
Should’ve just left it as you’re gutted and moved on fella, have a swift one for me to numb the pain,
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| I cannot blame George for not wanting to rejoin a Wigan club which is so devoid of direction. If it is true that we are having a fallow year next year before rebuilding for the year after then we will quite rightly see the likes of Bateman moving on. I know that I would not want to play for a club that had so little ambition. At least it takes away the need to renew my season ticket until we show some self respect.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Didn’t Rogues make a bet with someone on their site on GW signing for us?
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Rogues once claimed that Mickey Mac would oust KC at the time and be the GB Hooker for years to come. Ergo, Rogues knows nothing so best to just take no notice
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| Quote ="Poky"Rogues once claimed that Mickey Mac would oust KC at the time and be the GB Hooker for years to come. Ergo, Rogues knows nothing so best to just take no notice'"
I have more caps for GB than Keiron "leg injury" Cunningham.
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| Done you like a kipper as ol Georgie boy!
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| What I don’t understand about this is WHY if you had a signed agreement if/when he returned home, why would you tear it up and allow him to go to a SL rival? Granted I agree you wouldn’t want to force a player to come to you if his heart isn’t in it, but surely you’d use the agreement to try and leverage a fee out of it rather than let him go to Wire for free?
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| So he walked out on Canberra and weasled out of his agreement with Wigan, admirable.
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| I still can't believe that people are defending GW. He was under contact and we allowed him to leave (doing him a solid), he then signs a deal saying that he'll come back but pulls out of it. I'm not going to mince my words here - the guys an absolute scumbag. There's fewer things lower imo than a person who either can't keep their word, or breaks the trust of someone who has looked out for them.
I'm also annoyed at IL (a guy who I like):
1 - why aren't we enforcing the agreement? Is it not worth the papers it's written on (like the Edwards handshake)?
2 - why aren't we asking for a transfer fee, or taking the big nosed pr!ck to court? It's bigger than getting him back, it's a precedent for the future.
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"I still can't believe that people are defending GW. He was under contact and we allowed him to leave (doing him a solid), he then signs a deal saying that he'll come back but pulls out of it. I'm not going to mince my words here - the guys an absolute scumbag. There's fewer things lower imo than a person who either can't keep their word, or breaks the trust of someone who has looked out for them.
I'm also annoyed at IL (a guy who I like):
1 - why aren't we enforcing the agreement? Is it not worth the papers it's written on (like the Edwards handshake)?
2 - why aren't we asking for a transfer fee, or taking the big nosed pr!ck to court? It's bigger than getting him back, it's a precedent for the future.'"
It is quite simple, Wigan are a club in decline. There is a malaise about the club which has been gradually building over the last few years. The coaching, playing staff and general admin of the club are slipping year on year. The running of the club's off field activities has become worse year or year and that is spreading to the playing staff as well. The whole club top to bottom looks tired and bereft of any direction on and off the field.
The farcical attempts to sign Shaun Edwards, letting players leave early for the NRL (why only Wigan?) and sort of bringing them back only to be less than they were and then not enforcing any kind of written agreement smacks of a lack of fight at the club (the statement we are Wigan we don't do that is a joke - it admits we are a soft touch to everyone). Poor all round from top to bottom I am afraid.The signing of a "top prop" who was totally crocked from day one - really?
I have reached a point of apathy regarding Wigan (after following/supporting for 40+ years) and I am not in the least bit surprised at how things are going as it is a continuation of a steady decline which may to some extent have been made worse by the pandemic but was already happening. IL to me looks disinterested and tired and the club is crying out for new blood to bring some dynamism to it but I cannot see where that will come from. Other clubs seem to be managing ok but Wigan (and possibly Leeds) look like clubs in a long slow spiral of decline.
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| Having just read that statement from the club I’m feeling very disillusioned.
I’m not sure what it was supposed to achieve.
Whatever the intent was there is absolutely no positive to be taken from either a team or a club position.
Very concerning.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Didn’t Rogues make a bet with someone on their site on GW signing for us?
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I offered him the bet which he didn't take. It was for charity.
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"I have more caps for GB than Keiron "leg injury" Cunningham.'"
Cunningham never played for GB after MCIlorum made his Wigan debut. GB were put "on ice" in 2007 hence why McIlorum never played for them. They were only "resurrected" in 2019, and got tonked by New Zealand, Tonga and PNG!!
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| Quote ="NSW"Wigan lad wanting to play for Wire for a “new challenge” and not the extra salary haha.
Always liked George and will continue to. Not issues with him taking the big deal in a career where you could get a bad injury at any moment.
It’s funny that with Charnley, Bullock, George, Kibula and Hughes. Warrington have more Wigan academy lads in their team than Wire academy lads.
Parody club who’ve spend years trying to buy a title.'"
I appreciate you’re hurting but Wigan can’t point the finger at any other club for trying to buy a title without being labelled as gross hypocrites.
Havinng said that I don’t actually understand how signing players to play for a team is actually a criticism, given that is the way our sport works, unless you think that French, Field, G Burgess etc were homegrown products of Wigan but got separated due to some tectonic plate movement or got whisked away by an evil witch or…well you get my drift m sure.
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| The funny thing about this particular "parody" is that Warrington are being sneered by a Wigan fan for imitating..........?
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| Quote ="jonh"Having just read that statement from the club I’m feeling very disillusioned.
I’m not sure what it was supposed to achieve.
Whatever the intent was there is absolutely no positive to be taken from either a team or a club position.
Very concerning.'"
I think that's a bit dramatic. What were you hoping the club would say? They've communicated the reasons he's not coming back to the club - if they had said nothing and Warrington announce his signing then fans would be demanding an explanation.
It seems that the agreement to re-sign Williams was actually a little stronger than most thought I.e. a written contract not a gentleman's agreement. But pursuing legal action because a player doesn't want to join us would have made Wigan look absolutely ridiculous. And what if Warrington (or any other club) refuse to pay a transfer fee? Would fans really want the club to essentially hold the player in handcuffs and prevent him from playing rugby?
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I think that's a bit dramatic. What were you hoping the club would say? They've communicated the reasons he's not coming back to the club - if they had said nothing and Warrington announce his signing then fans would be demanding an explanation.
It seems that the agreement to re-sign Williams was actually a little stronger than most thought I.e. a written contract not a gentleman's agreement. But pursuing legal action because a player doesn't want to join us would have made Wigan look absolutely ridiculous. And what if Warrington (or any other club) refuse to pay a transfer fee? Would fans really want the club to essentially hold the player in handcuffs and prevent him from playing rugby?'"
The club have politely and professionally laid the blame squarely at Williams feet, as they should. He talked his way out of a contract at Canberra, blaming home sickness, fair enough. He then had a huge chance to return to the club he left, that he appears to have a written agreement with, and then talks his way out of that.
None of this is Wigans fault, look simply at the player, who within the space of a month had talked his way out of 2 written contracts/agreements.
Says more about Williams than the club.
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