I said I think he COULD be Bailey like but from what I've seen tonight I think I was wrong about him

Fair does

Different planet i'm afraid to say

RL at its best that 20 mins in the second half

Ryan Bailey is a class A prat cant stand him. wished someone would have sparked him out.

Your not on your own. Hes a big girl.

Get Feka on him

And say he's a bus driver

The guy is a thug who picks on backs.

During that last brawl. he was bricking it - there were that many 'convicts' around him that he probably thought that he was back in the showers in the clink - thought he was going over the advertising hoardings at one stage.

Great performance by Manly - they eased off and the scoreline flattered Leeds.

Original

Will the real Phil Bailey please stand up

I feel suprised that some people thought the game really end to end and tough. Manly won at a canter and as some of us have stated this shows the standard of super league, Manly cam eoverwithout a couple of top notch pl;ayers and I understand Leeds the same but the quality came from1 team.

At present Jamie Peacock is walking a fine line, sin binned twice in 2 matches where others may not have been so lucky, especially the last match. Some players get sent (red card) he seems to get yellows, not an issue if we are consistent.

We are now in my view seeing the results of hyped up drivel by Sky pundits and a low salary cap situation where we will llose our best players. What is more apparent is the "built in" ball skills of the Aussie league players. All this rubbish about our league being faster and more skilfull is tripe. At present the Wigan side is the most unattractive side in the last 20 years so where does this "skilfull, attractive" stuff come from?

We are light years behind in method, fitness, application and worst of all effort. Our players have an easy life dishing up mediocrity.

I've been waiting for someone to get low enough to 'boom' Rob Burrow and tonight it happened

That was a hell of a hit

I can't believe the guy got penalised!

Exactly. If the ref genuinely thought that was a dirty tackle, then he'd have red-carded the culprit, Burrow being knocked out cold.

There was nothing wrong with that tackle, and the ref knew it. He blew up in response to the crowd.

As for the game itself, I was again reminded of the WC. If Leeds represent the best Britain can offer, then we really do need help. Manly won it at a canter, if we're honest. And how telling that, the two good tries Leeds scored - not counting the last one, which happened because Manly had won and were clock-watching - were the handiwork of Lautiti. I'm just wondering how long it'll be before Britain starts to produce its own world class players again.

Agree, we really have the best game in any sport.

Are you telling me that the wonderful Leeds academy are not producing world class players?

Did I hear it correct tonight from Mick and Montmorency (alias dumb and dumber) that Leeds had the most English born players ever to play in a World Club Challenge game.

I thought Wigan beat Manly with a complete English born team.

I lie I know Wigan beat Manly with a complete English born team.

There was absolutley nothing wrong with the Watmough tackle on Burrow. Burrow would get killed if he played in the NRL each week. His stature would be found out week in week out in the NRL especially with hospital passes like the one he got tonight.

It's very true what you have said. Manly were clock watching for the last twenty minutes and dropped a gear down. If Manly had played the same number of games in the NRL as Leeds have done in SL Leeds would have been blown apart down the middle. They got battered by a bigger pack as it were anyway.

The lack of class players in SL at all clubs is telling. We just aren't producing players with enough skill and flair anymore and that goes for all clubs.

We certainly heard a lot about them tonight. But in truth I didn't see much from them that would worry even a Wigan fan like me, let alone an Australian. (Disappointing to see Peacock get caned as well. - the big chap's finally feeling his age.)

Dumb and Dumber just can't resist sticking the knife in, can they. They couldn't avoid making references to the 1987 match, but Eddie still managed a scathing: "If you listen to people in Wigan, everyone in the town claims they were there." If my memory is correct, near enough everyone in town WAS there. It doesn't surprise me that Eddie Hemmings would try to rewrite that piece of history.

Mini is just watching the game now after coming in from work.

Eddie the fountain of all knowledge does say it.

If anyone has recorded the game it's 25 minutes in.

Orford absolutely bossed the game tonight, his passing was outstanding.
Manly's defence in the first 60 minutes was outstanding, they won practically every collision and Leeds barely had a sniff, although Burrow going off probably didn't help.

Apart from that, Manly's trainers must have spent 50 minutes on the pitch tonight...when is somebody going to sort that rule out?!

Pssst!..... It was actually Guitar Warrior! But don't tell anyone!!

Why do you care so much? Commentators make mistakes sometimes.

Agree totally.

The issues with the SC have been highlighted by many on this board for a number of years now. The dumbing down of standards in SL is now a massive problem, which all the hype from Eddie and Stevo and the RL media more generally cannot disguise.

The problem is that when these issues are raised we get hordes of "my club first" Stains and others coming out with ridiculous anti-Wigan propaganda and denying that there is even a problem, so desperate are they to preserve the status quo. Usually we end up with 50 page threads, with page after page of ridiculous urban myths being trotted out by pro-SC propagandists.

Hopefully the silence so far on this thread means that even these people have realised that they can't keep up the pretence any more that the SC is working.

It may be - though personally I expect the big club dominance to continue - that the table at the end of the season will have smaller clubs near the top of the table (as we had back in the early 90s pre SC!).

Maybe this season or sometime in the next few years the "level playing field" will finally arrive - who knows, but all the evidence suggests that if it does it will be because standards at the top few clubs have fallen and that we will have a league composed of a few average sides and lots of poor sides. The old adage "be careful what you wish for" will never have been more true.

I think from a personal point of view Manly are the first club to come over since the 90s that wanted to win it. They came over early and had a warm up against a Super League team which i don't think the others have done. I think the others have thought we have to go over and play for this cup but its meaningless that was the difference yesterday. Well done Manly and Leeds for a great game with lots of passion and a little bit of biff.

Dont forget sydney city . they nilled saints .