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| Quote ="Saint Simon"good point, it would certanly cost wigan more than £400,000 if they had been relegated'"
Cas fans will be on here having a cry if you say things like that
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| We have missed out on the perfect signing for Wigan in terms of prop forwards - Petero Civoniceva. He was off contract at the start of the year and has signed a new deal with Penrith IIRC.
He would have been ideal for our young pack.
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| Quote ="cadoo"We have missed out on the perfect signing for Wigan in terms of prop forwards - Petero Civoniceva. He was off contract at the start of the year and has signed a new deal with Penrith IIRC.
He would have been ideal for our young pack.'"
He has played for Austrailia and Queensland for many years consistantly, he is recognised as one of the world's best props, he would cost so much on the cap, we would have to get rid of Fielden to get someone as demanding as that IMO.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"He has played for Austrailia and Queensland for many years consistantly, he is recognised as one of the world's best props, he would cost so much on the cap, we would have to get rid of Fielden to get someone as demanding as that IMO.'"
34 as well. Though he is still a top class player.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"It isn't a massive risk. Historically bid transfers have paid off (Fielden being the exception)Sculthorpe,Harris,Newlove all paid off well. I think the lad is the real deal.
As the Lad comes from Widnes, surely he'd rather play for Wigan than Wire?'"
Maybe having goulding part of any deal could work in our benifit..Not sure what the amount that would knock off any bid.
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| Why is everyone so arrogant in thinking Myler would simply sign for us over anyone? Or Orford for that matter?
Far too often (in recent times) has a Wigan team been carried by one man (Barrett, Farrell, Dobson etc) - Yes we are crying out for a good 7, but thats all he has to be - good. Good enough that he works well within the squad, good enough to lead us around the park in the backs, good enough so that Sam can work well with him and form a very good partnership.
I'd personally class Rob Burrow as a good player, nothing more, nothing less. He isn't world class - him and McGuire are neither world class, they just compliment each others game extremely well.
And it showed, when during the world cup they were broken apart. They looked average at best. Sam/Luelaui need a parter who compliments their game and they compliment back.
Wigan need a long lasting half back partnership, I'd 100% go in for Myler if he became available - even if he didn't I 100% would still go for him. Whats the harm in putting an offer in? Test the water so to speak. If it comes off it comes off, we're all happy - if it doesn't we've still got time to find a half-back in time for the pre-season.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"good point, it would certanly cost wigan more than £400,000 if they had been relegated'"
Don't think so really. We'd have come back up automatically and definitely got in through the SL licences.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Don't think so really. We'd have come back up automatically and definitely got in through the SL licences.'"
And lost Hock, Locky, Feka, etc etc etc.
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| Quote ="jonh"And lost Hock, Locky, Feka, etc etc etc.'"
And probably wouldn't have signed Mathers, Millard, Withers and Noble might have gone. Oh and we'd probably have given more of the youngsters a chance to come through
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| Quote ="Catalancs"And probably wouldn't have signed Mathers, Millard, Withers and Noble might have gone. Oh and we'd probably have given more of the youngsters a chance to come through'"
Noble wouldn't of gone IMO. He came to Wigan to help save us from relegation - which he did. Even if we did get relegated I reckon he would of stuck with us.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"Noble wouldn't of gone IMO. He came to Wigan to help save us from relegation - which he did. Even if we did get relegated I reckon he would of stuck with us.'"
Personally I'd have hoped he would have. Included it because I know a few posters would have seen that as a plus
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Personally I'd have hoped he would have. Included it because I know a few posters would have seen that as a plus
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| Quote ="Catalancs"And probably wouldn't have signed Mathers, Millard, Withers and Noble might have gone. Oh and we'd probably have given more of the youngsters a chance to come through'"
But financially we would have been well out of pocket by more than the transfer fee paid for Fielden. We would have had to rebuild the backbone of the team, which for a club like Wigan is much easier said than done.
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| Quote ="jonh"But financially we would have been well out of pocket by more than the transfer fee paid for Fielden. We would have had to rebuild the backbone of the team, which for a club like Wigan is much easier said than done.'"
If we'd been relegated, it would have been catastrophic on so many levels - maybe, in some cases, more seriously than simply financial.
Relegation would have inevitably seen a big drop in our crowds. And just at the time when there were repeated calls by the football clique for us to be shown the door. The Latics pitch was a constant thorn in everyone's side. There was no sign then of us signing a 50-year lease to stay at the JJB. I don't like to think what might have happened if we'd been reduced to the level of NL1 nonentities.
There was so much at stake that season that I still get the chills thinking about it.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"If we'd been relegated, it would have been catastrophic on so many levels - maybe, in some cases, more seriously than simply financial.
Relegation would have inevitably seen a big drop in our crowds. And just at the time when there were repeated calls by the football clique for us to be shown the door. The Latics pitch was a constant thorn in everyone's side. There was no sign then of us signing a 50-year lease to stay at the JJB. I don't like to think what might have happened if we'd been reduced to the level of NL1 nonentities.
There was so much at stake that season that I still get the chills thinking about it.'"
The knock on would've been felt around SL. Our Chairman was honest enough to say in 07? when you were arguing out of a potential 12 point deduction for your 06 SC issues, that he offered £20k towards your legal fees as the loss of wigan from our gates would be catastrophic for our finances
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"The knock on would've been felt around SL. Our Chairman was honest enough to say in 07? when you were arguing out of a potential 12 point deduction for your 06 SC issues, that he offered £20k towards your legal fees as the loss of wigan from our gates would be catastrophic for our finances'"
I remember hearing that from another source. It warmed me to your boss quite a lot.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"The knock on would've been felt around SL. Our Chairman was honest enough to say in 07? when you were arguing out of a potential 12 point deduction for your 06 SC issues, that he offered £20k towards your legal fees as the loss of wigan from our gates would be catastrophic for our finances'"
I didnt no that mate..
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"The knock on would've been felt around SL. Our Chairman was honest enough to say in 07? when you were arguing out of a potential 12 point deduction for your 06 SC issues, that he offered £20k towards your legal fees as the loss of wigan from our gates would be catastrophic for our finances'"
Well good on him nice to hear if its true. Only question i would have is why then would he not deal with the Wigan club first of all over Gleeson when we offered more than Warrington for him and he wanted to come to Wigan and second over Micky Higham when he had to go to Bradford before he came to Wigan??
Or was it after the change of owner at our club.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"Well good on him nice to hear if its true. Only question i would have is why then would he not deal with the Wigan club first of all over Gleeson when we offered more than Warrington for him and he wanted to come to Wigan and second over Micky Higham when he had to go to Bradford before he came to Wigan??
Or was it after the change of owner at our club.'"
As SS says, the act was most likely born of selfishness, i.e. he didn't want Wigan to go under if it meant Saints losing out. I don't suppose the same thinking applied when it came to potentially strengthening Wigan.
However, I'm led to believe that McManus now gets on much better with Lenagan than he did with Mo.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"As SS says, the act was most likely born of selfishness, i.e. he didn't want Wigan to go under if it meant Saints losing out. I don't suppose the same thinking applied when it came to potentially strengthening Wigan.
However, I'm led to believe that McManus now gets on much better with Lenagan than he did with Mo.'"
Yeah Mr Lenegan showed Mr McManus round the JJB not to long ago. IIRC this is actually the first time a chairman of St Helens has ever been in the Wigan board room.
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| Didn't they spend some time together mixing with the fans at Millenium Magic last year?
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| They were both at West Park Grammar School together, many years ago.
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| Can't do any harm to rebuild some bridges between the two clubs.
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| If we could sign Myler, would Deacon be a good short term option, in him being a good organising scrum half with a very good kicking game and a Wiganner?
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