Brilliant game. Had it been Leeds playing that well under similar circumstances I'd be feeling far more positive after the game than I did before it, despite the loss.

Yes, average. You're attack wasn't really up to scratch, lots of dropped ball. If your attack was up to scratch you would have scorched us in that first half but our defence was up to it and went in at half time only 10-0 down. Which was a massive positive considering how much ball we wasted. In the last ten minutes you were dominating, but where were you in the other 30? the young lads running a nearly full strength Warrington side ragged. I'm not being bitter? How am I being bitter? I'm saying what I saw.
I am so pleased with the effort our team showed. With so many key players out in our one man side I thought the enthusiasm and effort the lads showed was outstanding but the skill level wasnt quite there. Errors and inexperience caught up to us.

Some people shouldn't be allowed an opinion on rugby.

I can see where a lot of Wigan fans are coming from by quite rightly taking the positives out of the outstanding performance of that young side and hypothetically turning it into a win with the insertion of another three, four or five fit players – it seems like the logical thing to do, and is fair enough.

However, the fact remains that when Wigan and Warrington meet these days, one side hardly ever wins. Wigan usually reserve a very shoddy performance for their clashes against Warrington (much to the ire of you lot on here), but yesterday you produced a magnificent performance, which was still not quite enough.

Let’s make no bones about it, Wigan could win both trophies this season, beating Warrington en route, but just as plausibly, the two sides could meet in a play-off match or a final and if Wigan have a one-off bad day at the office, they will continue to lose to Warrington every time, fully-fit or not. That’s because Warrington – Dad’s Army or not – will always raise their game for Wigan, and for all his enthusiasm and great rugby, Wane is not as smart a coach as Smith.

I’m pleased that you’re all so positive about your prospects of beating Warrington should we meet later this year, but I’m sure you’ll understand that Warrington fans still feel incredibly confident about beating any Wigan side, every time we play you.

It was a great game last night. Let’s have it again later in the year.

And Warrington could go into the play-offs with a load of injuries with Wigan at full strength and lose to Wigan. Such is the nature of knock out competitions. What would you say then?



To be honest I am none the wiser. It was a great performance from Wigan given who we had available but that doesn't really tell me how our 1st team would play against you. In that sense it was disappointing we could not field our first team because there are not many really good sides to test either team. However I can speculate that with a bit more experience in the side the game was there for the winning and you must see that also as past results don't count for much except bragging rights.

You make some good points but i feel the need to defend Shaun Wane, i dont think Tony Smith is a better coach whatsoever, if he'd have been a bit smarter last night you could have put a boat load passed us but the fact remains he opted for a top heavy pack and bench to try and win the game up the middle but you have strick players all over th park and if you had been a bit smarter out wide you would have scored more tries fact is you didn't he's not as smart as you make out! Wane's policies and training methods this year and his sheer love and enthusiasm for the club are why we are top of the league and 4 points clear of you, granted he's and old fashioned taskmaster but when we went in at halftime 10-0 down and came back out to lead 12-10, who do you think orchestrated the tempo increase??? Ok we ran out of steam in the end, i can take that but it was down to circumstances which we could not avoid, no coach can prepare for that, well see soon enough anyway i just hope we have a full strength team come the business end and well run away with it.

A derby game will bring the best out of everyone, if you don't think those kids raised their game for this you'd be daft, they may be new but they understand what games like this mean to the fans.
We used to have your measure back in the day when your squad was probably the best in the world not just the UK.

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Different point, the player you missed most out of those injured for me would be SOL, i still think overall he's more important in the side than Tomkins, a complete Forward.

REALLY??

we have half a team against a full strength Wire I was expecting at 20 pont deficit

Boston, aren't you the one who didn't rate Myler?

Utterly amazing post to start this thread.

I'm sure it's already been said by everyone else on here, but the OP either knows nothing at all about Rugby League or has an agenda, or maybe a bit of both (perish the thought).

The OP is obviously ridiculous, an amazing effort from the young lads with so much experience on the sidelines. It is frustrating that we have lost a game that could've gone either way though (again). I mentioned during the game, and have noticed others saying it today, the most disappointing aspect for me is that we had George Williams sat on the bench for the full 80, surely that spot should've gone to either Lloyd, Greenwood or dare I say, Andy Powell?

That's correct! I think you forgot to add the point you was trying to make ??????? Please feel free add this on your reply

my point:

you know nowt

Bloody hell calm down before you have a coronary. Tony Smith has been coaching in the Super League for over a decade. He got Huddersfield promoted after not losing a single game. He took Leeds to their first championship in 32 years and won the WCC off the back of it. He also won another SL trophy in 07. Then he went to Wire and took them to their first challenge cup in 19 years, then retained it the following year, then won it again last year. What has Shaun Wane done that stacks up to that? I'm not saying that Wane's a bad coach, I'm saying he has a lot to prove before being comparable to Tony Smith, one of the most successful coaches of the Super League era, if not the most successful. Will that do for you?

Thanks for the clarification, i dont know what we'd do without clever b*stards like you posting on a Wigan forum, now off you pop back to all things Warrington!

Grimmy pull your head out of your

you might just learn something.

I'll break my original post down then.

[iUsual fayre in a big game where we come up short. [/i
Lots of big games in the last 18 months we have the ball, look solid with it and then failed to capitalise when really we should've been clear with territory and possession taken into account. This year we've drawn against Wire (h), lost against Hudds (a), lost against Leeds (a) and now lost against Wire (a). These are the three teams we'll directly come up against and it paints a sorry picture. Yes it's great the youngsters are getting experience and we can all take some positives if we look hard enough but bottom line is we don't win the crunch big games consistently enough. Warrington had a fair few seasoned pros missing too which seems to have gone amiss.

[iMatty Smith outstanding tonight but not good enough as a team to take the two points.[/i
Self-explanatory really, he was a proper general on the field and has really stepped up after criticism about his ability to replace Leuluai. As for not being good enough, well we weren't! Sam kicking the ball to Charnley was the turning point and we lost territory after that. Not using Williams and then Spencer (who clearly had a shocker) meant we played about 65 minutes with 15 men, which is why Higham looked a world beater towards the end.

Some of the false praise does need a dose of reality. We're in a results business and yes we were missing major players in some key positions but it's a bit annoying when we are starting to look like a set of flat-track bullies.

If there is a weakness it is we tend to play laterally and pass the ball more than other teams especially in our own half. Sometimes, simplicity reduces errors and gets the team into the arm wrestle rather than being on the back foot. Versus the lesser teams you can play however you want.

As a Saints fan Leeds have proved that you can do as much laughing and confidence boosting as you like by winning league games. It means Newt! Grand Final proves everything you need to know about a club.