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| Quote ="gingdong"You get me wrong my friend, were in a great state, i just want the same rules applied to every team in the challenge cup. We either all can play 5 overseas players or 1, im not bothered which i just want featherstone and Wigan to play to the same rules'"
Get Fev as full time pros then if you want a level playing field, to isolate just one rule about the overseas quota is a red herring
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"how about we go back to 1895...... It aint going to happen, it's called progression and the lower level clubs should aspire to improve. The cup shouldn't be dumbed down to the level of the weakest in it. Some of the lower league teams get their own "wembley" if they get to the 4th round and get drawn against the so called glamour clubs from superleague. it is a day for their players and fans to cherish.....'"
How can we improve to be as good as you if we play in the same competition under different rules?
Quote ="Pie minister"Quote ="gingdong"You get me wrong my friend, were in a great state, i just want the same rules applied to every team in the challenge cup. We either all can play 5 overseas players or 1, im not bothered which i just want featherstone and Wigan to play to the same rules'"
Get Fev as full time pros then if you want a level playing field, to isolate just one rule about the overseas quota is a red herring'"
Even then you would have 5 AUSTRALIANS MORE!!!
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| And by the way, red herring is probably the wrong idiom to use. Doesn't make sense.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"
Are Wigan fans the most spoiled, blinkered and narrow minded in the game, yes.'"
As opposed to Leigh fans who are the games most bitter huh
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| Quote ="CyberPieMan"icon_eek.gif I know a certain Yorkshire club were in the top flight at the time, but if this isn't tempting fate !?!
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Tempting fate? How? I said to win the comp not the tie. There's absolutely no chance of a team from outside of Super League winning the Challenge cup so why dumb it down to suit them? There have always been walkovers in RL and one or five overseas players doesn't make a jot of difference. You cannot put artificial restrictions on games - Top flight clubs plan their playing rosters to see them through the league and cup season. To then say 80% of you overseas contingent are ineligible is pointless and a prime example of the tail trying to wag the dog. Its like saying to a Premiership team that you can't play your overseas players in the FA cup against lower league opposition.
To be honest I'm not sure why I am bothering to reply to some of the plums arguing otherwise. I just thank the Lord for the good of rugby league that these people will never be in a position to make important decisions. Finally as someone has already said, its 17 v 17 at the end of the day irrespective of where those players come from. If lower league clubs were allowed five overseas players they would inevitably be of lower quality so the Super League team would still win in 95% of cases. Its known as the cream rising to the top, although I must admit I do understand how Leythers in particular have difficulty grasping that concept.
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| Quote ="Big Man"So why did we not hear one single word from you prior to the Cas game about this subject? What has changed?'"
Iv been going on about this for years as have many other people, they keep mentioning the lop sided scorelines in the cup, no one seems to mention on any rugby programme that there are different rules for super league clubs to Championship clubs. Super league clubs are allowed 5 overseas players and Championship clubs 1 in the same cup. It is a massive unfair advantage to super league clubs as though they need it any way, all we want is parity each club plays to the same set of rules, is this really too much to ask?
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| Quote ="Pie minister"Get Fev as full time pros then if you want a level playing field, to isolate just one rule about the overseas quota is a red herring'"
Bull crap that is there is nothing in the rules preventing us going full time is there, the fact we arnt is because we dont wish too, thats our problem, but the rules state, how many more times for fks sake that your allowed 5 us 1, it STINKS
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| Quote ="gingdong"Iv been going on about this for years as have many other people, they keep mentioning the lop sided scorelines in the cup, no one seems to mention on any rugby programme that there are different rules for super league clubs to Championship clubs. Super league clubs are allowed 5 overseas players and Championship clubs 1 in the same cup. It is a massive unfair advantage to super league clubs as though they need it any way, all we want is parity each club plays to the same set of rules, is this really too much to ask?'"
I take it you'll also be in favour of Super League clubs entering the Northern Rail cup because by your reckoning it's a little unfair on the Super League sides who are barred from entering. How are we supposed to win it if we aren't allowed to play in it?
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| Quote ="gingdong"Bull crap that is there is nothing in the rules preventing us going full time is there, the fact we arnt is because we dont wish too, thats our problem, but the rules state, how many more times for fks sake that your allowed 5 us 1, it STINKS'"
But the rules also state, for fks sake, that we are allowed to spend 8 times as much on players as you, if you want "equality" (in the cup ffs, whole point of the thing is you play clubs bigger/smaller than yourself) then sign another £1mil+ worth of players, or force us to play our u-21s.
Such a strange point to make.
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| Quote ="gingdong"Bull crap that is there is nothing in the rules preventing us going full time is there, the fact we arnt is because we dont wish too, thats our problem, but the rules state, how many more times for fks sake that your allowed 5 us 1, it STINKS'"
its a bummer aint it
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| If I was a fev fan I would want to see players like Finch, Richards, Leuluai etc play at my home ground.
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| Quote ="gingdong"Everyone keeps talking about the challenge cup and how to stop the big scores when super league teams take on the championship teams. The answer is hitting us all in the face when Featherstone play Wigan next Friday Wigan are allowed 5 overseas players and Rovers just 1 in the same competition, unbelievable. So come on Shaun wane you seem like a decent man so play the game, just play 1 import against us the same as were allowed. lets all play to the same rules in the same competition you already have the advantage of 1.3 million from sky to our 100k that surely must be enough do you want us to play with 1 arm tied behind our backs as well?
Come on take us on with just the 1 overseas player'"
I agree it isn't fair that we are allowed to play 5 overseas players while you can only play one however this is not the fault of Wigan RLFC this rule is due to the RFL and so I think you should complain to them. Shaun Wane is employed as head coach of our club and is judged on the results he gets with the team, due to this I would expect him to exploit any advantage available to him over any team we play, so with this in mind do you really expect him to play just one of our overseas players and therefore cause disadvantage to himself and the team?
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| We'll play with one overseas player if Featherstone agree to play the game on a flat full size pitch.
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| What a ridiculous argument by Fev fans.
First off - is there actually a cup rule that says they can only have 1 overseas player or is this just the reality because the league rules they are subject to mean that they only have one overseas player so are effectively unable to field more than one for a cup match? If it's just the latter, then what they are saying is they want to impose their rules on SL clubs.
Secondly - this has to be the most ludicrous example of the dumbing down, level playing field nonsense that afflicts RL. I expect a Brett Kenny post is imminent.
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| Quote ="gingdong"Iv been going on about this for years as have many other people, they keep mentioning the lop sided scorelines in the cup, no one seems to mention on any rugby programme that there are different rules for super league clubs to Championship clubs. Super league clubs are allowed 5 overseas players and Championship clubs 1 in the same cup. It is a massive unfair advantage to super league clubs as though they need it any way, all we want is parity each club plays to the same set of rules, is this really too much to ask?'"
So shall i go see your OP on the Cas board re the same subject? Or is it just because it's us... Lemme guess.
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| There are no rules saying Wigan have to play 1 overseas player in the challenge cup, unless that comes into fruition we will play whoever the hell we want
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"We'll play with one overseas player if Featherstone agree to play the game on a flat full size pitch.'"
Good point.
It wouldn't be a level playing field anyway!
I'll get me coat....
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"We'll play with one overseas player if Featherstone agree to play the game on a flat full size pitch.'"
A pitch we own, wheres the pitch you own
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| Quote ="gingdong"A pitch we own, wheres the pitch you own'"
I'd rather rent ours than own yours, just saying...
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| Quote ="gingdong"A pitch we own, wheres the pitch you own'"
In Orrell. That's flat like the one we rent too.
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| Wigan should set the standard and put 100 on Rovers.
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| Quote ="gingdong"Thats the whole point bonehead, WERE NOT ALLOWED 5'"
why not?
and less of the BONEHEAD
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| How the hell has this got to 8 pages........?
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| Quote ="[Gareth"How the hell has this got to 8 pages........?'"
God knows.
Wigan aren't going to field only one overseas player unless the rules are changed so we'll end it here.
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