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| Well that looks like thats the end of that pipedream.
The most bafflinf part of that article on sporting life about Mason is the part saying he's going to play centre for Toulon! If thats the case literally anybody could get a gig playing Union somewhere.
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| Hull KR must be relieved, best thing that could happen to them is to get Dobson back and Mason out imo
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| Quote ="Bill Sonny"Hull KR must be relieved, best thing that could happen to them is to get Dobson back and Mason out imo'"
For sure.
Mason has looked un-interested to me and with the money the guy must be on it seems a blessing in disguise for HKR. They could use his money very wisely if the right players become available.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Well that looks like thats the end of that pipedream.
The most bafflinf part of that article on sporting life about Mason is the part saying he's going to play centre for Toulon! If thats the case literally anybody could get a gig playing Union somewhere.'"
I think that's more of an indication of how barmy Saint-Andre is compared to the standard of RU centres.
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| Mason is not good enough to play at the level needed in Union, may do it for a few weeks as he has done for the last 4/5 years in League. He can't compare to SBW who now looks a super Union player and probably will start in the World Cup with the ALL Blacks and you don't do that if you can't play.
However for Hull KR they in my view were crazy to go for him, the sooner they get rid the better. Doesn't this make Sky look silly if the rumors are correct, comments such as "the biggest signing for Super League a true superstar" etc., do they really watch what is going on and more importantly understand this in the world of Rugby League. They have been so head in the sand with the English (sorry European) game that that have totally ignored developments elsewhere. As a result of "the we are world class" etc. descriptions that we have been given for so many years and maybe just recently tempered down a bit situation we are now miles behind what is going on in Australia and going backwards.
This is very sad and if we further just look at what a brand new Australian coach achieved with Wigan in 1 season surely we should take a long hard look at our game and not keep pretending how good it is. We were a better spectacle and much closer to being able to compete 15 years ago and certainly at that time Union could not compare. Unfortunately we have gone backwards and they have moved on and Super League is not very super and our crowds now don't even compare to Union where 15 years ago the opposite applied.
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| if true Mason will go a storm in union at inside centre. Good option for him easy money will have to do half the work and will be twice as effective.
He will be used as a battering ram in exactly the same way he is in League, playing on his size power and offload.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Well that looks like thats the end of that pipedream.
The most bafflinf part of that article on sporting life about Mason is the part saying he's going to play centre for Toulon! If thats the case literally anybody could get a gig playing Union somewhere.'"
explains why he played most of the last 20 on Friday stood near George Carmont.. wanted to watch a class centre up close.
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| Quote ="terryb"Mason is not good enough to play at the level needed in Union, may do it for a few weeks as he has done for the last 4/5 years in League. He can't compare to SBW who now looks a super Union player and probably will start in the World Cup with the ALL Blacks and you don't do that if you can't play.
However for Hull KR they in my view were crazy to go for him, the sooner they get rid the better. Doesn't this make Sky look silly if the rumors are correct, comments such as "the biggest signing for Super League a true superstar" etc., do they really watch what is going on and more importantly understand this in the world of Rugby League. They have been so head in the sand with the English (sorry European) game that that have totally ignored developments elsewhere. As a result of "the we are world class" etc. descriptions that we have been given for so many years and maybe just recently tempered down a bit situation we are now miles behind what is going on in Australia and going backwards.
This is very sad and if we further just look at what a brand new Australian coach achieved with Wigan in 1 season surely we should take a long hard look at our game and not keep pretending how good it is. We were a better spectacle and much closer to being able to compete 15 years ago and certainly at that time Union could not compare. Unfortunately we have gone backwards and they have moved on and Super League is not very super and our crowds now don't even compare to Union where 15 years ago the opposite applied.'"
I agree with you. Unfortunately we are in a minority; most people in RL won't face reality.
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| Quote ="jonh"if true Mason will go a storm in union at inside centre. Good option for him easy money will have to do half the work and will be twice as effective.
He will be used as a battering ram in exactly the same way he is in League, playing on his size power and offload.'"
Quite possibly one of the most bizzare posts I have ever read
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| Quote ="terryb"Mason is not good enough to play at the level needed in Union, may do it for a few weeks as he has done for the last 4/5 years in League. He can't compare to SBW who now looks a super Union player and probably will start in the World Cup with the ALL Blacks and you don't do that if you can't play.
However for Hull KR they in my view were crazy to go for him, the sooner they get rid the better. Doesn't this make Sky look silly if the rumors are correct, comments such as "the biggest signing for Super League a true superstar" etc., do they really watch what is going on and more importantly understand this in the world of Rugby League. They have been so head in the sand with the English (sorry European) game that that have totally ignored developments elsewhere. As a result of "the we are world class" etc. descriptions that we have been given for so many years and maybe just recently tempered down a bit situation we are now miles behind what is going on in Australia and going backwards.
This is very sad and if we further just look at what a brand new Australian coach achieved with Wigan in 1 season surely we should take a long hard look at our game and not keep pretending how good it is. We were a better spectacle and much closer to being able to compete 15 years ago and certainly at that time Union could not compare. Unfortunately we have gone backwards and they have moved on and Super League is not very super and our crowds now don't even compare to Union where 15 years ago the opposite applied.'"
Correct.
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| Quote ="terryb"Mason is not good enough to play at the level needed in Union, may do it for a few weeks as he has done for the last 4/5 years in League. He can't compare to SBW who now looks a super Union player and probably will start in the World Cup with the ALL Blacks and you don't do that if you can't play.
However for Hull KR they in my view were crazy to go for him, the sooner they get rid the better. Doesn't this make Sky look silly if the rumors are correct, comments such as "the biggest signing for Super League a true superstar" etc., do they really watch what is going on and more importantly understand this in the world of Rugby League. They have been so head in the sand with the English (sorry European) game that that have totally ignored developments elsewhere. As a result of "the we are world class" etc. descriptions that we have been given for so many years and maybe just recently tempered down a bit situation we are now miles behind what is going on in Australia and going backwards.
This is very sad and if we further just look at what a brand new Australian coach achieved with Wigan in 1 season surely we should take a long hard look at our game and not keep pretending how good it is. We were a better spectacle and much closer to being able to compete 15 years ago and certainly at that time Union could not compare. Unfortunately we have gone backwards and they have moved on and Super League is not very super and our crowds now don't even compare to Union where 15 years ago the opposite applied.'"
The fitness level in RL is far higher than in RU. They won't use him in the forwards no doubt, they consider the role of the forward in RU to be far superior and take years of learning to develop an understanding of the roles.
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| Quote ="jonh"if true Mason will go a storm in union at inside centre. Good option for him easy money will have to do half the work and will be twice as effective.
He will be used as a battering ram in exactly the same way he is in League, playing on his size power and offload.'"
Can see him being more effective as an outside centre, like Matt Banahan.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Can see him being more effective as an outside centre, like Matt Banahan.'"
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| They are all saying on the kr forum that dobson and newton have gone il needs to chuck his cash at dobson asap
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9 tommy (rotate with micky mac)
and let deacon get into the coaching side of things like he wants to
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"Get the cheque book out mr chairman, i would even support paying a transfer fee'"
Pay a transfer fee to who?
Dobson has been de-registered and is a free agent.
Any one who has space on the cap and a quota spot can sign him, provided he wants to join them.
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| Quote ="proper-shaped-balls"Pay a transfer fee to who?
Dobson has been de-registered and is a free agent.
Any one who has space on the cap and a quota spot can sign him, provided he wants to join them.'"
Steff Ratchford I think.
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| Quote ="jonh"Steff Ratchford I think.'"
You've lost me now. I thought we were talking about Dobson.
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| Quote ="king warrior"They are all saying on the kr forum that dobson and newton have gone il needs to chuck his cash at dobson asap
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When they say Dobson and Newton out, it's because they're not playing on Friday, not that they've left the club.
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| Quote ="wigan2win"When they say Dobson and Newton out, it's because they're not playing on Friday, not that they've left the club.'" They said that what humberside radio or something said about them leaving the club
Even if it was that i'd still go after dobson
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| As far as i understand Dobson is a free agent and can sign for any club now if he chooses. Thought the RFL ruled on this few weeks ago. Also reports on Sporting life denying any move by Mason to France. I would test the waters now and try and sign Dobson, we have space with GLeeson gone and i think i am correct were under on overseas players.
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| Quote ="tank123"As far as i understand Dobson is a free agent and can sign for any club now if he chooses. Thought the RFL ruled on this few weeks ago. Also reports on Sporting life denying any move by Mason to France. I would test the waters now and try and sign Dobson, we have space with GLeeson gone and i think i am correct were under on overseas players.'"
i wouldnt say that on the hull kr forum, they'll kick up a fuss, i tried, now im just winding them up on purpose!
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| Quote ="tank123" we have space with GLeeson gone '"
Well that depends if we paid his contract off or not. We didn't sack him so we may have had to have pay up this full year on his contract, which would have counted on the cap.
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| Quote ="wigan2win"Well that depends if we paid his contract off or not. We didn't sack him so we may have had to have pay up this full year on his contract, which would have counted on the cap.'"
As he has now signed for Hull i do think he will have had a limited pay out from the club. Though he did not get the sack it was by mutual consent which usually means let save face by all parties.
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| Quote ="wigan2win"Well that depends if we paid his contract off or not. We didn't sack him so we may have had to have pay up this full year on his contract, which would have counted on the cap.'"
u sure?
it was either this or by mutual consent, cant image IL being daft enough to pay him a years contract
seemed that way to me, unless there has been something announced that ive missed, willing to be corrected mind
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| So as the HKR fans are pointing our on their board the Announcement today is that there is no announcement and things are still up in the air in regards to Mason and Dobson.
It looks as though things are to drag on a little more and i'd like to think Ian Lenagan will have his eyes on events over in Hull in the hope we could get Dobson in as a replacement for Deacon. I've said previously i'd like to see Deacon stay on in 2012 but thats because I didn't see a realistic replacment available. I also thought he wouldn't be needed on the coaching staff fulltime as I thought Maguire would be here but obviously things have changed in that respect.
I still see it as a long shot and it's more wishful thinking then believing theres anything in it but i'd love to see us make a move.
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