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| I think Cullen made his point very clear on Boots n All about what drugs are being used in the sport. When you think of drugs most people think of Cocaine and other such drugs, but what he seems to imply that is rife in the sport is Growth Hormone drugs. Players are under the myth they can get away with it and he was making it very clear and kept repeating the same point - they can't!
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| Quote ="cadoo"I think Cullen made his point very clear on Boots n All about what drugs are being used in the sport. When you think of drugs most people think of Cocaine and other such drugs, but what he seems to imply that is rife in the sport is Growth Hormone drugs. Players are under the myth they can get away with it and he was making it very clear and kept repeating the same point - they can't!'"
He did seem pretty on point about it, he really grilled Spence from the RFL.
As Carney said, 2 years isn't enough, the sanctions need to be stronger.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Cullen has been superb on boots 'n all. He knows it's rife and has just said so.'"
It's not very often that I watch Boots 'n' All and enjoy Paul Cullen's segment because half the time I find he's waffling. But I couldn't agree more.
Paul Cullen was excellent on Boots 'n' All tonight, his passion to get RL as clean as possible has to be admired and copied by senior staff at all clubs and at the RFL.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Wiganers & Drugs
When I was going on the lash through the nineties and onwards, if anyone wanted any drugs (not that I nor any of my mates did), then it could be obtained from a friend of a friend of a friend. I must admit the drug culture has never affected me and if you don't go looking for it you won't see it........
........And then a couple of weekends ago, I ended up in Indiependance (used to be fifteen), I was stood having a slash in the upstairs bogs and two lads at the side of me were openly sniffing cocaine and bragging how good 'the stuff' was!
Now, if it was done in the cubicles that's one thing (thats kind of hiding it), but the fact was they were completely uninterested in the fact that I was stood at the side of them - I could have been anyone (off duty copper, owner of the gaff)...????
I must be getting old, but I do fear for my two young lads who will be hitting the 'delights' of King Street in the next 10-12 years!!!'"
I'm round Wigan quite regularly, and the only time i've ever seen anything was a group of girls passing each other what i'm guessing were pills in Walkabout and that was ages ago. I have heard the snorting in toilets on occasion though.
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| Quote ="Katrina"I'm round Wigan quite regularly, and the only time i've ever seen anything was a group of girls passing each other what i'm guessing were pills in Walkabout and that was ages ago. I have heard the snorting in toilets on occasion though.'"
drugs are rife in every town in the UK.
every single busy pub in every half busy town has coke being snorted in the toilets.
however its very rare the people get offered drugs in pubs.
dealers dont walk around asking people 'want any coke mate'
your kids wont be offered drugs..... but if they go looking for them they will find them easily.
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| I agree with drug's being more available now.
When I first started going out, it was rare.
Now it is almost celebrated, and those not taking it are treated as the strange ones!
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"I wouldnt. Ive heard the stories and seen the photographs from an ex Fev player who mixed in their circles. He also told me how they used to get around the drugs testing
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Unadultarated child's p*ss?????????
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| Quote ="MattyB"Wiganers & Drugs
When I was going on the lash through the nineties and onwards, if anyone wanted any drugs (not that I nor any of my mates did), then it could be obtained from a friend of a friend of a friend. I must admit the drug culture has never affected me and if you don't go looking for it you won't see it........
........And then a couple of weekends ago, I ended up in Indiependance (used to be fifteen), I was stood having a slash in the upstairs bogs and two lads at the side of me were openly sniffing cocaine and bragging how good 'the stuff' was!
Now, if it was done in the cubicles that's one thing (thats kind of hiding it), but the fact was they were completely uninterested in the fact that I was stood at the side of them - I could have been anyone (off duty copper, owner of the gaff)...????
I must be getting old, but I do fear for my two young lads who will be hitting the 'delights' of King Street in the next 10-12 years!!!'"
Matty B you are obviously the same age as me and I agree the culture has changed dramatically. My lad is 17 and to be honest I cringe when he says he wants to go into Wigan on a Friday or Saturday and i have so far managed to dissuade him. When I was younger and had a few beers, the last thing i wanted to do was get into a scrap. Problem is some drug users are just so blatant and thing they are "big time Charlies" then that can lead to an inevitable " kick off" when some innocent gets injured or even worse. If you are taking drugs then you clearly have something sadly very wrong in your life. As for Newton if it is proven (and so far we do not have the results of the tests) he must need his head examining. What kind of a man with family responsibilities risks everything for that?
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| Quote from the VT regards Newton:
Quote ="reddan"has he got time to sign for wire and get off scot free before a decision is made??'"
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| Quote ="Big Steve"Unadultarated child's p*ss?????????'"
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| What a turnip. Him and Hock are both brain doners anyway, at least Newton's done it when his best days are behind him.
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| he may not get a 2 year ban. The RU guy didnt who said it was taken in the off season which Newton did. Forgot his name
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| It all depends what he has allegedly taken
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| Stupid Terry, so close to the end of his career too.
It's funny though, if it's common knowledge that two players have taken substances through out their career, the difference of being simply being caught could result in one good player at the end of his career being accused of being a disgrace to the game or on the other hand you could be classed as a legend and have a statue erected in your home town centre.
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| Quote ="ABP'"Stupid Terry, so close to the end of his career too.
It's funny though, if it's common knowledge that two players have taken substances through out their career, the difference of being simply being caught could result in one good player at the end of his career being accused of being a disgrace to the game or on the other hand you could be classed as a legend and have a statue erected in your home town centre.'"
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| Quote ="Big Steve"Unadultarated child's p*ss?????????'"
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| Quote ="ABP'"Stupid Terry, so close to the end of his career too.
It's funny though, if it's common knowledge that two players have taken substances through out their career, the difference of being simply being caught could result in one good player at the end of his career being accused of being a disgrace to the game or on the other hand you could be classed as a legend and have a statue erected in your home town centre.'"
KC is a legend though, Superleagues greatest player and the only blemish is being suckered by that dude who pretended to be a qualified doctor, one whom also fooled the RFL. Newton on the other hand, if found guilty, has just added another stamp to an already carwreck career. He will be remembered as a shocking waste of talent and a thug, one who will no doubt end up in the gutter once his career has finished. No scrap that, he wont even be remembered, except by wigan fans for giving them the only thing to cheer in 10 years by doing what he does best, smashing peoples faces in. GG
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"KC is a legend though, Superleagues greatest player and the only blemish is being suckered by that dude who pretended to be a qualified doctor, one whom also fooled the RFL. Newton on the other hand, if found guilty, has just added another stamp to an already carwreck career. He will be remembered as a shocking waste of talent and a thug, one who will no doubt end up in the gutter once his career has finished. No scrap that, he wont even be remembered, except by wigan fans for giving them the only thing to cheer in 10 years by doing what he does best, smashing peoples faces in. GG'"
Of course he was mate, taking a 'fat burner' because he couldnt run on a broken arm, is the worst excuse in the history of bad excuses. Has he never heard of an excercise bike?
Those legal fat burners have never ever been proven to work, and i cant believe your lot fell for it hook line and sinker, just because he a player for your team.
Get your head out of the sand, drug use, recreational or otherwise is rife in 95% of sports.
There isnt only one BALCO in the world!
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| [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/feb/17/terry-newton-wakefield-ban-drugsPerformance enhancing according to the Guardian[/url
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| What a player Tezza was at Wigan! Whilst other big time charlies were also failing drugs tests and walking out on their country Tezza was far and away the best 9 in the country. It's no wonder he's done what he's done is it. Shame the RFL weren't paying his wages or maybe he would have got off as well?
His career ended the day he was sold 2 Bradford for a player who isn't fit 2 lace his jock strap. It's a shame that a few mistakes like this one will now mean he doesn't get the respect he deserves as a great RL player.
Still a Wigan legend IMO
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| Quote ="Big Steve"Unadultarated child's p*ss?????????'"
mmmmmmmmnnnnnn Unadultarated child's p*ss
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Tezza was far and away the best 9 in the country. '"
Hes never been in the top 2 hookers at any point of his career. Was always in the shadows of Lowes and KC. No wonder he resorted to performance enhancing drugs. With Lowes out of the way and KC pretty much retired, plus the performance enhancing drugs, he may, just may have managed to get on a par with the likes of Micky Higham or Malcolm Alker
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"What a player Tezza was at Wigan! Whilst other big time charlies were also failing drugs tests and walking out on their country Tezza was far and away the best 9 in the country. It's no wonder he's done what he's done is it. Shame the RFL weren't paying his wages or maybe he would have got off as well?
His career ended the day he was sold 2 Bradford for a player who isn't fit 2 lace his jock strap. It's a shame that a few mistakes like this one will now mean he doesn't get the respect he deserves as a great RL player.
Still a Wigan legend IMO'"
Was that before or after the performance enhancing drugs
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| Quote ="Codarmysaint"icon_lol.gif
just may have managed to get on a par with the likes of Micky Higham or Malcolm Alker'"
Lost any credibility at that point darling.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"It's a shame that a few mistakes like this one will now mean he doesn't get the respect he deserves as a great RL player.'"
He didn't have respect outside of Wigan anyway so this doesn't make any difference.
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