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| Quote ="cadoo"To be honest I think if we do appoint Wane it will not be because the club feel he has "earned" it or "deserves it" - it's more likely to be because we have failed to get our targets and no-one else is available.
IMO we should leave Wane alone. He is doing a fantastic job with the reserves (just look at the amount of players who have come through the first team) and I believe he doesn't want a full time job.
Leave Wane alone and let's get a more experienced coach in from the NRL or a new exciting young coach from the NRL.'"
What do we do if we can't get anyone though?
I would say it is better to use someone from within the club rather than go to our second, third and fourth options. If we have Mcguire in mind then we should get him at all costs.
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| Quote ="Red Hot Jalapeno"How dare you think that! You will have a certain poster after you saying stuff like that.
If Wane gets the job then i suspect it will be a one year contract and he will be told to earn a new one by IFL. Not that it will matter mind you as his replacement will prob be signed up a week later
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One year contract would suggest wigan do not have the faith in him.
It should be a 2 year contract with an option of a further year. The club have got to show faith.
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| Wane was exclusively a prop IIRC. I don't remember him being a star, but he held his own well enough.
I don't know enough about his technical ability as a coach to comment on his suitability.
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| BrettKenny has a good point here.
Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Wigan is the biggest club side in RL and we need a big coach. Next year we will be competeting against sides coached by Mick Potter, Tony Smith, Brian McClennen etc. We need to compete with this knowledge and experience. I don't want an Aussie "prospect" coming over hear and learning his trade, I want the finished article.'"
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| Quote ="cadoo"To be honest I think if we do appoint Wane it will not be because the club feel he has "earned" it or "deserves it" - it's more likely to be because we have failed to get our targets and no-one else is available.'"
Well its pretty obvious IL has been looking overseas and so I tend to agree.
I would have been quite happy if Wane had been given the job on a caretaker basis with Noble sacked half way through this season but as head coach full time? Not so sure about that.
As a caretaker I am sure he would have put a rocket up the team but I thought the consensus was we needed an NRL coach who had modern ideas to impart?
We also risk losing Wane from the job he is doing so well. We lost a great servant in West when he was inevitably fired and he did a great job for the club behind the scenes prior to being full time coach. Some people are more use to the club out of the limelight of the coaches job and I think Wane falls into that category.
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| When there were rumours earlier in the year about him taking over as caretaker, allegedly Wane said he was happy staying as coach of the reserves as a full time position would take up too much of his time from from family/work commitments?
What's changed since then?
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| Quote ="DaveO"Well its pretty obvious IL has been looking overseas and so I tend to agree.
I would have been quite happy if Wane had been given the job on a caretaker basis with Noble sacked half way through this season but as head coach full time? Not so sure about that.
As a caretaker I am sure he would have put a rocket up the team but I thought the consensus was we needed an NRL coach who had modern ideas to impart?
We also risk losing Wane from the job he is doing so well. We lost a great servant in West when he was inevitably fired and he did a great job for the club behind the scenes prior to being full time coach. Some people are more use to the club out of the limelight of the coaches job and I think Wane falls into that category.
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No arguments there. I wouldn't mind seeing Wane as assistant coach to someone really special from the NRL, but I don't think he's ready for the top job just yet.
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| i dont no how we can have apinions on someone we dont no much about like maguire. He must be 3rd in demand at melbourne behind bellamy and kearney. We talk about people from nrl like there supermen theres nowt saying maguire will be any better than wane as he wont no any of the young lads proper and they are going to be very important next year if we are going to even make top eight without any signings whatsoever.Also when we do get a new coach who really makes signings? owner or coach. I dont care if we got wayne benett with that set of players again we will struggle we need a balance of youth and experience and i think were we really need improve is the front row obviously and we need good fb phelps is good squad player and trys very hard but im sorry hes not good enough if we want to win cups.I think warrington was laughing all way to bank when we bought gleeson he is just overated and lacks motivation for me and were stuck with him now and were was the sense in giving some one like roberts a 4yr deal when we have good kids and it no good saying give then time all the time. farrell radlinski edwards all played when they was good enough not when over a certain age they have either got it or not.
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| Wane would have coached a few of the team so dont see him getting respect a problem
If he wants it i say give him a shot everyone has to start somewhere
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| Quote ="king warrior"Wane would have coached a few of the team so dont see him getting respect a problem
If he wants it i say give him a shot everyone has to start somewhere'"
I would not be hard for Wane to improve over Noble in several areas IMO but the assistant coaches linked to us have been working under top NRL coaches so the idea is they have new idea and ways to do things Wane won't know anything about.
If Wane wants the top job fair enough but let him be assistant for a while to someone form the NRL. I still think he is most useful to the club doing what he does.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"What do we do if we can't get anyone though?.'"
We're in trouble then.
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| IF wigan needed a new coach Mr Edwards would be my choice
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"One year contract would suggest wigan do not have the faith in him.
It should be a 2 year contract with an option of a further year. The club have got to show faith.'"
And if it goes wrong, we are stuck with him.
I hope Wane stays doing the job he clearly does well, as has been said, the risk of us losing him is great.
I think Wane getting it is potentially a sign that IL hasnt got any of his other targets, if so, id love to know why, but I suspect all we will here is that "he deserves a chance"
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"IF wigan needed a new coach Mr Edwards would be my choice'"
I can honestly say that he would not be mine - Certainly not my first choice anyway.
I'd sooner have an NRL assistant, than somebody who has never coached in SL at any level, and has been out of the game for several years altogether.
Add to that the money that would be required to tempt him away from his son (in London), his Guiness Premieship job AND his job at Wales RU.
Admittedly, he will motivate the players - But who on here can HONESTLY say that they know that Shaun Edwards can coach SL rugby ???
He's more of a risk IMO than either Wane or McGuire, through a simple lack of RL coaching experience.
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| a good set of players will look after themselves to an extent if your a good player with out about you when team is struggling you would come forward and put your hand up and raise your game i.e it wouldnt hurt gleeson to look for a bit more ball and try do summat instead of just standing about with his finger up his ar*se when you play rugby league all your life you should be able to work on your own instinct as well a being coached. of course we need good coach but some times if the players cant be bothered what can a coach do he isnt on field. For me to make an opinion on a new coach or noble id like to no does the coach really make the final desicions on signings or does ian lenagen make the desicions if its IL we cant really blame noble for out.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"What do we do if we can't get anyone though?
I would say it is better to use someone from within the club rather than go to our second, third and fourth options. If we have Mcguire in mind then we should get him at all costs.'"
if we cant get no one we stay with noble. i think appointing shaun would be a bad move, yes hes wigan through and through, but i dont think hes up to sl standard, also i dont like the sounds off having an assistant coach and a 21s coach
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| Quote ="Legend That Sorts It"if we cant get no one we stay with noble. i think appointing shaun would be a bad move, yes hes wigan through and through, but i dont think hes up to sl standard, also i dont like the sounds off having an assistant coach and a 21s coach'"
Too late. He's already going to Celtic.
Have patience, it will all be sorted soon enough
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Too late. He's already going to Celtic.
Have patience, it will all be sorted soon enough
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i agree hes 99% off to celtic, feels soory for him the way hes been treated the last couple of weeks, theres just no experience in the coaches though, and theres not much on the field come to think off it
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| Quote ="Legend That Sorts It"i agree hes 99% off to celtic, feels soory for him the way hes been treated the last couple of weeks, theres just no experience in the coaches though, and theres not much on the field come to think off it'"
How much coaching experience did West and Gregory have?
I don't feel worried at all... maybe it's just the people i speak to
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| Quote ="Catalancs"How much coaching experience did West and Gregory have?
I don't feel worried at all... maybe it's just the people i speak to
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im not worried we wont get relegated hehe, just wanna get it sorted out the week we finnish our last game
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| Quote ="MADDOG1983"i dont no how we can have apinions on someone we dont no much about like maguire. He must be 3rd in demand at melbourne behind bellamy and kearney. We talk about people from nrl like there supermen theres nowt saying maguire will be any better than wane as he wont no any of the young lads proper and they are going to be very important next year if we are going to even make top eight without any signings whatsoever.Also when we do get a new coach who really makes signings? owner or coach. I dont care if we got wayne benett with that set of players again we will struggle we need a balance of youth and experience and i think were we really need improve is the front row obviously and we need good fb phelps is good squad player and trys very hard but im sorry hes not good enough if we want to win cups.I think warrington was laughing all way to bank when we bought gleeson he is just overated and lacks motivation for me and were stuck with him now and were was the sense in giving some one like roberts a 4yr deal when we have good kids and it no good saying give then time all the time. farrell radlinski edwards all played when they was good enough not when over a certain age they have either got it or not.'"
McGuire is second in command at Melbourne. When Bellamy is on State of Origin duty McGuire runs the show. He was also favourite for the Brisbane job when Bennett left but he wanted to see his contract out at Melbourne.
He's very highly regarded amongst his peers.
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| Quote ="MR FRISK"IF wigan needed a new coach Mr Edwards would be my choice'"
He'll NEVER return.
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| Quote ="AJ"And if it goes wrong, we are stuck with him.
I hope Wane stays doing the job he clearly does well, as has been said, the risk of us losing him is great.
I think Wane getting it is potentially a sign that IL hasnt got any of his other targets, if so, id love to know why, but I suspect all we will here is that "he deserves a chance"'"
And you had a tantrum when I accused you of being on the campaign trail. Nothing's actually happened yet. Nobody's been announced - and this is your conclusion !!!
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| new coach at wigan will be adrian lam. noble never stood a chance as lenigan does not even speak to him.
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| Quote ="loyalwiganer"new coach at wigan will be adrian lam. noble never stood a chance as lenigan does not even speak to him.'"
Codswallop.
Noble has had plenty of chances, and has failed to get it right. I saw him and Lenagan chatting away after a match only a couple of weeks ago.
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