you'd have to ask yourself how much is marketing, how many is it going to bring in, is it financially worth it ?

£17 a ticket getting in 3000 more fans brings in £51,000. How much would the marketing be ?

Surely its up to the clubs to find the most cost effective way of marketing things though, whether that be a special offer on season tickets (like we did last year with the free junior tickets), money off match day tickets or simply bombarding the town with posters and leaflets - there are so many different levels the marketing can be done at depending on what end results you want.

To an extent the top clubs will always sell themselves and get crowds of a certain size in with no advertising but if clubs want to push those boundaries they need to work to get as many extra people in and build the fan base for future years.

If it costs £51,000 pound it would be worth it!

If ony 10% of those fans come back on a recurring basis that's £5k in the bank EVERY other week from then on, plus merchandise & Other ancillaries.

That could clear 100k for the year recurring.

You can't expect to spend 10k on Marketting 1 week, bring in 3000 extra speccies and expect to keep those 3000 forever.

It needs to be a consistant, speculative, long term approach.

The point is if the glory hunters turned up more and not just when you play wigan or saints, semis etc then your crowds would probably be averaging 11k-ish like the poster said.

it's so much glory hunters, it's atmosphere or going with your mate who is also an away speccy that brings people in for the wire v wigan v saints matches. look at wire v saints games for example it brings loads of wire supporters out the woodwork but we go there and watch us get beat year after year, not exactly glory hunting is it ?

some people can't afford it or have different commitments in life so they prioritise the local derby matches as the ones they watch

Basic things like using our own website or email campaigns are very cost effective. Even basics like this are not being done.

Thought it was gonna be some crap like that.

We averaged 11k in 2005, and we never won anything then, so my claim that we should be averaging 11k had plenty of reasoning and truth in it, whereas yours was just a really poor trolling effort.

Wigan's marketing has been excellent this year. The Chief Exec, Mick Hogan, has even been on the phone selling tickets to fans. Not to mention the 'Big One' against Leeds and the north stand occupied by Heinz for the Quins game.

Warrington have a large fan base, it just needs really hitting hard with some good marketing campaigns.

Well done for averaging 11k 4 years ago - what's gone wrong then? Not enough big money signings

As for trolling I'm a Wigan fan on a Wigan fans forum - I'll leave the trolling to the Wire fans who seem to be on here constantly.

I already acknowledged what has gone wrong (lack of marketing effort etc.) yet you obviously don't want to discuss reasonable points.

The point of these forums is that it isn;t exclusive for Wigan fans, so if I want to come on here and discuss your averages, and compare and contrast them to my club, then I will do. No trolling, not from my side anyway.

Since 2005 we have lost, as an average a thousand seasson ticket holders per season. Disillusionment may have subsided, but I can't see us going from 5.5k to 8.5k next season.

Nope, I would agree, and to link it back to Wigan (it is their board after all!) they have shown what can be done with some effort, allbeit in one off games like the Quins and the Leeds ones.

An example of the marketing team's incompetence at the HJ Stadium, is the fact that online there is no mention whatsoever about the new season tickets on the club website, despite the fact that the leaflets have been printed out with full details.

Again, basic stuff is being missed out!

You should have a word with Gutterfax from the Quins board.

One off games are the way to start it and get people through the gates and then hope they buy season ticktets.

It is no coincidence that we have introduced a new SEASON ticket offer after we have been promoting these games.

£35 season ticket for young kids along with a training camp is the best offer in RL IMO.

Stop being positive, it's not allowed. Moan about the coach, Riddell, Feka, Lenagan, Pryce, Roberts and the price of ale in the bar etc.

It's true POSITIVE thoughts and FACTS are not allowed on RLfans



Although your post is very witty Rougues, I don't think many Wigan fans would say they are unhappy with the Marketing since the takeover!

Moaning about the coach and players is normal but even if you tried I don't think you could say a bad thing about the attempts to sell ticktes.

Saying this though, we do need an improvement on the shirt for next year.

Design? Manufacturer? Sponsor? Price? Released on time?

Colour, lets have 'cherry' and white, not red and white !!!!!

Why worry about things like that? How would the players be able to concentrate on the rest of this season

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Design could be better IMO, that doesn't matter though it's just opinion.
However I am sure everyones opinion is that the shirt should be released alot earlier.
The price was a bit steep but I suppose you pay for Koogas quality.
A nicer looking sponsor would be great

The marketing team have done fantastically well this season. I was having a pop at the moaners.

The shirts will be released in time for Christmas (I am reliably informed)
Sponsorship is difficult in time of a recession, so they may be released without logos (I think the fans may like that)

Is there any news on whether the Mecca sponsorship will be extended?

I assumed it was only a one year deal

Yep, hence asking if there is any news on an extension.

They seem to have been pretty pro-active sponsors, and it would be good to see them remain involved.