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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Here are "the facts"
Karl Pryce has scored 19 tries this season
15 tries from 10 appearances in the reserves
4 tries from 6 appearances in the first team.
Not a bad strike rate, would you agree?'"
He is still a 6 ft 10 player who runs it in like a 15 year old. At least Leon has a bit of fight in him
I lined it up like Hock so let me hear your reply.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Here are "the facts"
Karl Pryce has scored 19 tries this season
15 tries from 10 appearances in the reserves
4 tries from 6 appearances in the first team.
Not a bad strike rate, would you agree?'"
Was thinking of starting a "Scapegoat of the week" Thread!!!!!!!
You don't have to be a genius to work out that since they can't blame Mathers, Roberts is proving that he is the better winger ATM over Ainscough, Piggy's doing quite well, Bailey's doing nothing different than he has always done but now is being appreciated for the player he always was and they've finally given up on Crucifying O'Loughlin then "Who Else" are they going to have a pop at!!!!
Just a shame BN wasn't interviewed and said "Wigan" instead of "We" and then he could have been crucified instead of Pryce!
Did well last night Pryce and for the love of God I can't understand why Some fans (I nearly used the term Idiot fans as that is how frustrated I am with the loud mouthed Idiot's 3 rows behind me who over the last 12 weeks have crucifed Mathers, then Riddell and now Pryce in a foul mouthed abusive way) want certain players to fail?????
It's like they shoot there big mouths off and blame 1 player for a defeat etc and then won't leave him alone until the club kicks him out or the fans turn on him just to prove that they were right!!!!!!!!!
They have a bigger interest in their own Internet or Gameday Ego than actually trying to be constructive about things!!!!!
The Kn0b at the back of me (3-4 weeks ago he spent 80 ins calling Riddell every name under the son and when I pulled him up for swearing in front of kids he swore again when saying he wasn't swearing!!!!!!!!!) started on Pryce 30 seconds into the game last night!!!!
Ridiculous!!!!!!
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| Quote ="cherrydevil"I cant believe you are counting reserve tries and appearences, pathetic
In that Wigan reserve team, against the standard of teams that you play against, any half decent player who is playing at centre should score that amount. You are talking about a player that has made god knows how many Super League appearances and is built like the proverbial brick outhouse playing against mainly teenagers. Often these teenagers arent even any good and many are just making up the numbers and as such the standard in reserve grade is shocking. You really are clutching at straws there mate
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OK then 4 tries from 6 in first team.
How many other players have that strike rate?
Oh and he's still only 22 years of age.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Was thinking of starting a "Scapegoat of the week" Thread!!!!!!!
You don't have to be a genius to work out that since they can't blame Mathers, Roberts is proving that he is the better winger ATM over Ainscough, Piggy's doing quite well, Bailey's doing nothing different than he has always done but now is being appreciated for the player he always was and they've finally given up on Crucifying O'Loughlin then "Who Else" are they going to have a pop at!!!!
Just a shame BN wasn't interviewed and said "Wigan" instead of "We" and then he could have been crucified instead of Pryce!
Did well last night Pryce and for the love of God I can't understand why Some fans (I nearly used the term Idiot fans as that is how frustrated I am with the loud mouthed Idiot's 3 rows behind me who over the last 12 weeks have crucifed Mathers, then Riddell and now Pryce in a foul mouthed abusive way) want certain players to fail?????
It's like they shoot there big mouths off and blame 1 player for a defeat etc and then won't leave him alone until the club kicks him out or the fans turn on him just to prove that they were right!!!!!!!!!
They have a bigger interest in their own Internet or Gameday Ego than actually trying to be constructive about things!!!!!
The Kn0b at the back of me (3-4 weeks ago he spent 80 ins calling Riddell every name under the son and when I pulled him up for swearing in front of kids he swore again when saying he wasn't swearing!!!!!!!!!) started on Pryce 30 seconds into the game last night!!!!
Ridiculous!!!!!!'"
Didn't we discuss that pre-match last night?
Get your season tickets in the West Stand next season, far more refined.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"OK then 4 tries from 6 in first team.
How many other players have that strike rate?
Oh and he's still only 22 years of age.'"
Exactly, he is a great player, perhaps needs some confidence, but that is a great strike rate.
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| I thought Pryce went fairly well.
As with a lot of the squad, he is suffering from the lack of an adequate fitness coach, and as a result looked tired from early on in the second half.
That said, if (and hopefully when) we get a new coach and conditioner, if he works hard over the off season I think he'll come good.
Certainly he showed glimpses of talent, and as for going down too easily, I don't know what you expect him to do from often a standing start? As soon as he had a couple of metres in front of him, he managed to draw a good few men in (certainly in the second half).
As far as I'm concerned, most players on the books deserve a fresh start under a new coach to prove themselves, and Pryce is certainly included in that group of players.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"OK then 4 tries from 6 in first team.
How many other players have that strike rate?'"
How many of those have been like his try last night where he has been handed them on a plate? Tries where he gets the ball in plenty of space, where he doesnt need beat anyone and just dive over from 5 yards out. Has he actually created any himself or beat a man? At a guess I would say all of them or maybe he has put down a grubber as well. You seem great at spouting off meaningless statistics which dont actually prove anything.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Didn't we discuss that pre-match last night?
Get your season tickets in the West Stand next season, far more refined.
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We did, but I also discussed in Wigan after the game till 3 in the morning with a Bunch of Noble Haters and you know what the general feeling was???
Message boards like this are a Pain in the backside and cause more problems than they solve (Especially at Wigan!) !!!!!!
I'm beginning to agree!
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| Quote ="cherrydevil"How many of those have been like his try last night where he has been handed them on a plate? Tries where he gets the ball in plenty of space, where he doesnt need beat anyone and just dive over from 5 yards out. Has he actually created any himself or beat a man? At a guess I would say all of them or maybe he has put down a grubber as well. You seem great at spouting off meaningless statistics which dont actually prove anything.'"
Here's the real question.
How many times have you seen Karl Pryce play this season?
How many times have I seen Karl Pryce play this season?
Who is the best to judge?
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| Quote ="cherrydevil"How many of those have been like his try last night where he has been handed them on a plate? Tries where he gets the ball in plenty of space, where he doesnt need beat anyone and just dive over from 5 yards out. Has he actually created any himself or beat a man? At a guess I would say all of them or maybe he has put down a grubber as well. You seem great at spouting off meaningless statistics which dont actually prove anything.'"
About the samer percentage as Ainscough's were handed on a plate to him!!!!!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"About the samer percentage as Ainscough's were handed on a plate to him!!!!!'"
Or Darryl Gouldings
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| He is a work in progress i think most sensible posters accept that, to say he is a failure or a success at this stage would be very niave and a bit stupid in truth.
Its funny how other clubs can get away with signing projects but Wigan get slammed for it.
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| Quote ="jonh"He is a work in progress i think most sensible posters accept that, to say he is a failure or a success at this stage would be very niave and a bit stupid in truth.'"
That sums it up well. I certainly would like to see him have an extended run in the side at some stage but if there are no injuries its difficult to forsee when that might happen - even if you look to 2010.
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| Quote ="jonh"He is a work in progress i think most sensible posters accept that, to say he is a failure or a success at this stage would be very niave and a bit stupid in truth.
Its funny how other clubs can get away with signing projects but Wigan get slammed for it.'"
You are spot on! If I was to guess, possibly Carmont's replacement in the very near future.
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| Quote ="Mark1987"You are spot on! If I was to guess, possibly Carmont's replacement in the very near future.'"
If he does not step up to the plate next year and prove he is worthy of replacing Carmont, then he should and i think will be released. I am sure he is aware of this fact as well.
Despite the trolls, his Wigan career is still well within his hands and righfully so.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Or Darryl Gouldings'"
And he then Bombed them!!!!!
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"OK then 4 tries from 6 in first team.
How many other players have that strike rate?
Oh and he's still only 22 years of age.'"
I think a lot of people are frustrated with the fact his strike rate could (maybe even should) be a lot higher.
If he had a bit of fire in his belly he would be one hell of a player, bouncing players all over the place, making breaks for fun, a nightmare to handle in the opposition's 20 and scoring at will.
Unfortunately he doesn't have that in him but thats what people expect of him
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| Pryce lacks one vital ingredient to make it at the top level - heart, backbone, bollox, whatever you want to call it.
He didn't have it at Bradford and nothing I've seen so far at Wigan suggests he's moved on from there.
It's great scoring a million tries in the reserves, but the step-up to first team is huge, the players aren't 20 and under, the hits are bigger and he needs to use his physical attributes more.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"And he then Bombed them!!!!!
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And yet Leeds and Warrington wanted to sign him.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Pryce lacks one vital ingredient to make it at the top level - heart, backbone, bollox, whatever you want to call it.
He didn't have it at Bradford and nothing I've seen so far at Wigan suggests he's moved on from there.
It's great scoring a million tries in the reserves, but the step-up to first team is huge, the players aren't 20 and under, the hits are bigger and he needs to use his physical attributes more.'"
Exactly pal.
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| With the injuries we now have Pryce may well get the run in the first team we feel he needs.
No Smith and Gleeson back may well have Sam at 7 and Gleeson 6 with Tommy going to 9 with Piggy off the bench.
That would leave the centre for Pryce.
Noble said after the match that Pryce started off very well and had a good first half. He felt he tired quickly in the 2nd.
Maybe Noble was going to bring him off at the last 20 but with injuries he couldn't.
I thought he played well and deserves another run out. He could figure regularly if the injuries continue to mount.
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| Quote ="AJ"Wow, thats a pretty big opinion to form based on what you think and frankly it makes you look like an idiot.'"
Me and thousands of other fans. I'm not one to blindly jump on bandwagons but you've got to admit he hardly looks interested at all. How can anyone improve at anything without putting in hard work? God knows what he's like in training when he doesn't have everyone on his back to do some work. I'm not saying he doesn't have the talent or that he's fighting fit, but he just doesn't look bothered. I wish I could put Ainscough's heart in that body.
As for the name calling, don't lump me in with the clowns in the stands who look for someone to blame every week, because they irritate me on match day too.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Here's the real question.
How many times have you seen Karl Pryce play this season?
How many times have I seen Karl Pryce play this season?
Who is the best to judge?'"
The answer to that is very simple. The person who judges him on his appearances in the first team, where it counts, not playing against junior players in the reserves which I am sure your "How many times have you seen Karl Pryce play this season ." is based on.
In other words you claiming some profound incite into the ultimate value of players based on how well they go in the reserves is nonsense.
I have no axe to grind v KP on Friday but I do think your "I know best because I watch the reserves" opinion is worthless.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Me and thousands of other fans. I'm not one to blindly jump on bandwagons but you've got to admit he hardly looks interested at all. How can anyone improve at anything without putting in hard work? God knows what he's like in training when he doesn't have everyone on his back to do some work. I'm not saying he doesn't have the talent or that he's fighting fit, but he just doesn't look bothered. I wish I could put Ainscough's heart in that body.
As for the name calling, don't lump me in with the clowns in the stands who look for someone to blame every week, because they irritate me on match day too.'"
Pryce might come good yet? as for name calling from AJ I would just ignore as both AJ and his side kick RHJ are well known for it.
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