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| You know the thread you locked about Mason, him getting off and all that.never mind kid good luck in ya next game.
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| Quote ="BOYD2"You know the thread you locked about Mason, him getting off and all that.never mind kid good luck in ya next game.
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A. I didn't lock it, it was another moderator.
B. Keith Mason wasn't 'let off'. He was found guilty and was fined £300.
Sorted, done, end of!
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"A. I didn't lock it, it was another moderator.
B. Keith Mason wasn't 'let off'. He was found guilty and was fined £300.
Sorted, done, end of!'"
If only that were true!
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| Bye bye Noble your time is up
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| Aye ya right Alex lets move on ,ya need to chanel all ya energy for Barrow now.
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| Quote ="jonh"Why are these the only options?
Neither have been anywhere near realistic in the last 2/3 years.
We are no closer to the top 2 and have infact been caught by the rest of the league.'"
These are not the only options.
That wasn't the question though. The question was (and is) which of the two would you prefer.
It's not a trick question. I am interested to hear which of those two specific situations you would prefer.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Out of interest Jon, which would you prefer out of the following 2 scenarios:
1. Wigan play "well" all year, tail off a bit to the end, and finish 4th.
2. Wigan play sporadic all year, hit form come the playoffs and make the Grand final.'"
Not sure if you're inviting others to chip in but I'd go for Option 1 on the grounds that it would give us a solid base for the following season where we could (hopefully) get a bit of tin for something.
I, personally, believe that sort of foundation is what makes a team of the current class of Leeds. Sporadic play is what we have had since 2007, sadly rather than seeing a 50%+ pleasing wins or an upward trend, we're seeing a regression.
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| Quote ="King Monkey"I know you weren't asking me but 2.
Leeds and Tony Smith were slated by some of the more knee jerky Leeds fans throughout 2007 for some disjointed performances but ultimately finished 2nd on the ladder. They then mullered Saints at Old Trafford.'"
They did not play sporadically. No team that finishing 2nd does so what Leeds did is not option 2.
It is "option 3" which is they played well over the whole year, won most of their league games which meant a good starting position in the play offs from which they went onto the win the GF. It might dawn on people one day this is what you need to do to win the thing not scrape into the playoffs.
If you play sporadically all year you will not end up 2nd in the table but much further down such as 4th or lower and no one has won it from 4th!
Option 2 is completely unrealistic.
FWIW Option 1 is also unrealistic because finishing 4th as we have seen with Wigan in 2007 and 2008 means losing 50% or more of your games. That does not equate to playing well and tailing off!
Quote As long as you qualify for the playoffs it doesnt matter how many you've lost up until then.'"
It does because if you think it is likely a team will win it from 4th or lower you are IMO dreaming. Bradford were even lucky with injuries to Leeds and Saints when they won it from 3rd. You need to finish in the top 2 to have a realistic chance of a GF appearance.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"A. I didn't lock it, it was another moderator.
B. Keith Mason wasn't 'let off'. He was found guilty and was fined £300.
Sorted, done, end of!'"
Another stalker
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| Quote ="DaveO" You need to finish in the top 2 to have a realistic chance of a GF appearance.
Dave'"
Still an advantage to be 1 or 2 but this season I think that 4 is the more critical cut-off in that 1-4 all get a second chance if they lose their first game. In my opinion, the new system makes it slightly more likely that someone will win the GF from 3rd or 4th.
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| Quote ="ashtonrugby"Bye bye Noble your time is up
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He should stay. He's doing a great job.
Spoiled it slightly by getting a couple of wins though...
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| It looks like there is a split decision over this, but like i said right at the begining of this thread its his style of rugby that really gets to me. The game of rugby as moved on a lot since he was having all the success with Bratfud, the big man picking the ball up at first reciever and running it in as hard and fast as he can have gone, a more faster and expansive passing game is what we have now and we simply dont seemed to have adapted as well as other teams, the likes of wakefield, huddersfield and hull all play a more exciting game than we seem capable of at the moment, as much as i hate to say this but i would rather pay my addmission fee to watch the more entertaining off the cuff rugby that St Helens play every week. To be honest in the 25 years of watching Wigan the current rugby im going to watch every week is the most boring i`ve witnessed and surely this is down to the tactics being taught them on the training ground. Time for a change is what our overall game is in need of before we get left even further behind the rest of the teams.
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| Like I have previously stated I dont think IL will sack Noble, but if we should lose on sunday I dont think he(IL) will any other option to do so. The fans will demand it.
PS: I think we will put 50 on Barrow on the weekend
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| Quote ="Saint Ermintrude"He should stay. He's doing a great job.
Spoiled it slightly by getting a couple of wins though...
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Are your other 36 posts as funny as this one?
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| Quote ="MattyB"Are your other 36 posts as funny as this one?'"
I'm happy you find them amusing
As a Saints fan It's good to see Wigan struggle.
As a fan of Rugby League fan I am sorry to see Wigan in the state they are in at present.
Wigan are far to good a team, on paper, to be in the position they are in and the fans deserve to be rewarded for their loyalty.
Perhaps a change of coach is needed if only to bring new ideas to the club. Wigan do not seem to have gelled as a team in the past few seasons IMO which is unfortunate for Rugby League.
Now having said something 'nice' about Wigan, I'm going to take my tablets and go for a lie down
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| well on paper we have a decent squad.i know IL does things on the cheap,but the problem is brian noble and phil vievers.as a combination and i am being honest they have no respect for the club or the fans to them it is just a job.
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| Quote ="loyalwiganer"well on paper we have a decent squad.i know IL does things on the cheap,but the problem is brian noble and phil vievers.as a combination and i am being honest they have no respect for the club or the fans to them it is just a job.'"
Not the impression I have got when speaking to him, if anything quite the opposite.
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| Quote ="loyalwiganer"well on paper we have a decent squad.i know IL does things on the cheap,but the problem is brian noble and phil vievers.as a combination and i am being honest they have no respect for the club or the fans to them it is just a job.'"
how do you know that I mean really that is the most ridiculous thing to say.
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| Quote ="loyalwiganer"brian noble and phil vievers.as a combination and i am being honest they have no respect for the club or the fans to them it is just a job.'"
Absolute cobblers.
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| Quote ="loyalwiganer"but the problem is brian noble and phil vievers.as a combination and i am being honest they have no respect for the club or the fans to them it is just a job.'"
A horrendous statement.
Whether you back Noble or not and I still do by the way, no one can question his effort and commitment.
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| come into the real world,frank endecott went when we were riding high loved the club,sorry i have spoken to noble nice bloke but arrogant has no feelings for wigan.his mate easy going phil.??????????????
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| Quote ="loyalwiganer"come into the real world,frank endecott went when we were riding high loved the club,sorry i have spoken to noble nice bloke but arrogant has no feelings for wigan.his mate easy going phil.??????????????'"
have you spoken to him really because we had a great conversation with him in oz for quite a while. He probably seemed arrogant to you but maybe you just seemed simple to him and wasting his time.
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