Didn't they scrap the 50% turnover thing 2 or 3 years ago because it didn't work?

In your twisted mind Paul.

Yep. Iro was never that good for Leeds IMO. Innes was a class above though.

Some astonishing posts on this thread from people that know very little about RL.

Wigan in the mid-90s were a very fit side, any difference at all in fitness levels would be marginal. (Personally I'm not convinced that current SL players at Saints or Leeds are fitter in any event).

Leaving that aside, the Wigan forwards in both the 94 and 95 teams would be too strong for Leeds or Saints today. And as for the backs, the backs who played that day for the 94 side were very good, at least as good as any SL side today... and the 95 side is much, much better than any back division that has ever played for any team in the SL era:

Henry Paul
Jason Robinson, Va'aiga Tuigamala, Gary Connolly, Martin Offiah
Frana Botica, Shaun Edwards

No Saints or Leeds team has ever (and in all likelihood will ever) even come close to that level of quality.

Let's not forget also that the '94 side was, of course, the team that beat the great Brisbane side on their own ground in front of over 50,000 fans.

The tired attempts by Saints fans and others to rewrite history and denigrate the achievements of the great Wigan sides of the late 80s and early 90s are simply embarassing.

Agreed 100%. People put far too much emphasis on "modern advances in training and fitness" etc because Eddie and Stevo bang on about the game getting better and better and better and better...

That Wigan team of 94/95 was as good as any team I've ever seen, they were like an all star team. Full-time too obviously, they were hardly sitting on their ar$es all day getting fat. Anyone who thinks they were not as good as the Saints team of '06 or Bradford '03 due to so-called "modern advances" are talking out of their ar$e.

Couldn't care less about the current Wigan side, but the current Leeds side would walk all over that 90's Leeds team. It is far better now in almost every position.

Of course not

You Carry on Deluding Yourself!

So your telling me Leeds or Saints have never produced a backline, as good as Wigan's in mid 90s EVER?

Wigan did quite well with that 90's backline...

Championship Winners
1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1992/93, 1993/94, 1994/95, 1995/96

Challenge Cup Winners
1989/90, 1990/91, 1991/92, 1992/93, 1993/94, 1994/95

World Club Challenge Winners
1991/92, 1993/94

Lancashire Cup Winners
1992/93

Regal Trophy Winners
1989/90, 1992/93, 1994/95, 1995/96

Charity Shield Winners
1991/92, 1995/96

Yes.
Certainly not in the (almost 60) years I have been watching Rugby League.

I wouldn't have thought that would be too controversial a statement personally.

please feel free to tell us the better backlines that leeds and saints have had.

Raelly? You don't even think some of the Wigan backlines of the 60s & 80s are as good if not better than their mid 90s counterparts.

Some of the individuals yes but as a collective unit no.


We're still waiting for your Leeds and Saints selection that you believe are better.

Don't worry. You'll get them, just doing a bit of research first.

Cant wait to see the results

I should add that Wigan are also very unlikely to ever come close to having backs as good as that side. Its not an insult to Leeds or Saints, we just won't ever see their like again I'm afraid.

I'm not sure about that, there's been a couple of backlines in the NRL over the last few years that could match that side IMO.

Its the half-back partnership for me, its good, but theres been better IMO.

Hows the research going?

I'm at work I haven't started it yet. Unlike Tvoc I don't have these kind of stats at my PC. But be patient.

Yes!

End Of!

Finito Benito!

End of Discussion!

But I didnt even mention the best Backline Wigan Ever Had as they are the ONLY club with possibly a better backline Ever.

I would go for 92 Team

Lydon

Botica Bell Miles Offiah

Edwards/Gregory

But then again??? On reflection Mybe Not?????

Like Billy B once said in the Griffin

"You could never pick a Wigan Best team & agree as their's too many Legends!

You can't do it fo Saints or Leeds either, There aren't enough!"

You see, the difference with us Wiganners is that when it comes to Rugby it's all Upstairs in the Noggin already!

It's Like Aussies & Barwork, It's in the Genes, It's in the Blood, It's INSTINCT !

I Can't wait for this!

Then again, I suppose I'm going to have to be patient, Coz it aint going to happen!