With respect in the modern game with the salary cap restrictions you need your solid players as well as your superstars.

We are very close to achieving this imo a lot of our current team is very young and talented and if we get the balance right then we could have the team we've been calling for;

1-Richards/Roberts
2-Ainscough
3-World class centre (on par with Gildley is a must)
4-Goulding
5-Richards/Roberts
6-Tomkins
7-Smith
8-Fielden
9-Riddell
10-New prop
11-Hansen
12-Lockers
13-Tomkins

Prescott
Hock
Feka
Leuleui

Plenty of youngsters like O’Carroll, Mcilorum, Farrell, Mossop, Thornley, Vievers to step up for CC games and injures.

We realistically only need a new centre and a good British prop and we then we have a quality team for the next four years. It’s very achievable all we have to make sure is the new prop is a good $hit house one and a world class is brought in.

You are right mate, this is the closest we have been for a good few years in getting the balance right.

IL said when he took over it would be a good couple of years before we are ready to be at the top again. Whilst I don't think we will be the top team this season I still think we can win some silverware or at least be there on the day with a chance.

I think with one or two good signings the balance will be right in 2010. We do need to blood a few certain youngsters this year to achcieve that though.

We haven't got any.

I bet you can't post that again at the end of the season. Riddell and Smith would rather hit King St than the training ground and neither are in a position where they can afford to do so. Roberts is overrated and adds nothing to the squad Colbon didn't last year. Ainscough is twice the player already.

Hock, Smith, Roberts, Pryce and Riddell do have the potential but I dont think Noble is picking the right team or tactics.


and we have a world cup winner in the squad so he must be a superstar

Till you have any facts or evidence about Smith and Riddell on king street nobody is going to believe you.

Ok they like a drink...so what? They can do what they please in their own time as long as it doesnt affect their performances on the pitch.

The fact is Smith was our MOM last week! Not only have we been praising him but Hull fans have also commented just how good he was 2. He must be doing something right. He's got undoubted potential and is already a cracking SH. Do i think he's a 6? Probably not but his skill set is perfect for the SH role and if he's stays at Wigan with Tomkins as his HB partner we can all have something to look forward to.

What are you basing your statement about Ainsough being twice the player Roberts is on? Is it all the SL and Challenge cup games he's played? Or is it Ainscoughs try scoring record season after season like Roberts has?

Untill he’s played a SL all he can be is good prospect and nothing more. You don’t become a good player until you do the business in the full league.

Defiantly. Sam T and Ainscough shouldn't be playing every week but hopefully they’ll play a good number of games to aid their development this season. The more experience they get this season the better we’ll be going forward next season

My only concern is Noble may not be the person to achieve the team we could potentially have or make the most of it either.

I really do feel we are on the cusp of something with the squad we have, two major signings in the prop and Centre spot and we could easily be challenging.

Please show us your facts that prove Roberts is over rated

People are dubbing him a 'superstar' when he's done naff all apart from have 2 bad games. I know you can't go off 2 games when judging a player usually but he really has been that bad I can't see him improving... people went off less when we signed Coley. Most of peoples opinions are based on what they want to happen rather than facts on here.

First Tim Smith was much better v Hull than Wakey. I just wish people would stop harping on about his Rookie of the year awards. When he won that his coach Brian Smith said he would play for Australia within 2 years. It never happened. If it had Tim would not be at Wigan. The player we have is still a good one but a pale shadow of what he could have been due to his ongoing health issues.

Have a drink on the season ticket holders boys!

Shock Horror they aren't having a drink are they? How dare they?

=red**Be careful of what you're posting.**


Also, I never said there was anything wrong with having a drink, I was asked for evidence and facts=red*





=red*The first comment wasn't a fact. Get them right before you post.*

shoot them now how dare they LOL

Never said there was anything wrong with it...

I'd be very careful with statements like that.

But you did say they would rather hit King Street then go training though



I am not bothered if they have a few drinks the day or so after the game as they are in a tough profession and I would not expect them to behave like monks.

That said if that was happening a day or so before the game then I would be a bit more concerned.

So you dont have any facts to prove hes over rated then

your going of a players first 2 games in months and months..read up his try scoring record in the best league in the world and you will see hes far from over rated.

I'd be fairly worried about Smith drinking, wasn't it a major contributory factor in making his bi polar disorder worse?

And you're kidding yourselves over Pryce, he'll never be a susperstar for you or anyone else.

Precisely...if those pictures where took the night before the game send them to IFL. He did say if we had any evidence send it to him and he will review it.

Is Riddell drinking water there? I guess it could be vodka though. Either way you cant expect them not to drink all season. I'd only be bothered if it was the day before a game or when they're supposed to be at training.

The most shocking thing about those pics is that they're in Jumpin Jaks.