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| Quote ="Grimmy"Did Rads mention whether we'll have anyone returning next week?'"
No but but he did say the team were battered and bruised and that they will have to assess the situation over the next few days indicating the situation could be even worse next week.
He said that Madge was very emotional in the changing room afterwards and had some strong words to say to a few players who had moved away from what they should be doing. He said the team motto is 'Team Me' which he said means that the Team comes first. He said several players had put Me first but he said Madge had spoken to them about this in plain English! Its encouraging that he picks up on the things that matter and tries to put them right straight away.
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| Im glad Madge is calling players out on there "Ill go myself" attitude, Sam is the main culprit for me. Currently he is spoiling as many attacks as he is creating with his go back the other way step.
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| As much as Sam is taking on the line too much at times with that step back on the inside i'd love to see him have a few more runners and options. It seems very rare to me that he has options on either side of him and if he had those he'd put more doubt in the minds of the opposition defence.
His bomb near the end which was easily dealt with ingoal by their fullback had me pulling out my hair though!! Why the hell did he do that when he had numerous players on his right hand side.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"As much as Sam is taking on the line too much at times with that step back on the inside i'd love to see him have a few more runners and options. It seems very rare to me that he has options on either side of him and if he had those he'd put more doubt in the minds of the opposition defence.
His bomb near the end which was easily dealt with ingoal by their fullback had me pulling out my hair though!! Why the hell did he do that when he had numerous players on his right hand side.'"
I disagree, re the runners, we have plenty when we go to the side that has been called and Phelps/Roberts will join the line and the killer pass will be thrown. Sam goes back against that and goes back into traffic, thats why he doesnt have the option, because we are set up to go the other way.
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| Sam's jink can be very effective but he's pulling it a little too often so they expect it.
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| Quote ="AJ"I disagree, re the runners, we have plenty when we go to the side that has been called and Phelps/Roberts will join the line and the killer pass will be thrown. Sam goes back against that and goes back into traffic, thats why he doesnt have the option, because we are set up to go the other way.
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He's trying too hard thats for sure but he's missed Roberts chiming into the line and Phelps hasn't done that as much as he previously was before his injury.
I'd like to see us give him an option on his inside though. He steps back into the traffic but they're just about managing to deal with him because they don't have any runners there to deal with.
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| Quote ="nohalfbacks" Kris siad that there were 11 Wiganers in the 18 last night and that the club are well on the way to where they want to be in that regard. '"
Being pedantic - Johnny 'Blocker' Walker isnt from Wigan.
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| Quote ="Leyland Warrior"Being pedantic - Johnny 'Blocker' Walker isnt from Wigan.
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Mossop's from Cumbria + McIlorum's from Leeds. They've all come through the ranks though which is good to see
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| Quote ="Leyland Warrior"Being pedantic - Johnny 'Blocker' Walker isnt from Wigan.
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He also has the lowest body fat percentage at the club.
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| One of the highlights for me was O'Loughlin's handoff on Melling, heard it from my seat near the top of the east stand. Melling didnt know which planet he was on for the next few minutes!
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| Liam Farrell was the main positive from last, he is the player from the Reserves I was most looking forward to seeing this year, and he really isn't letting me down.
Also the pre-match with the Army lads was nothing short of superb. Even if some people spoiled the Minutes silence after the Bugle. I mean, how hard is it to listen to instructions? It was clearly stated there would be a minutes silence.
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| Farrell showed what an outstanding prospect he is and what a good player he's already become last night. It's difficult to play well in a poor side but Farrell did just that. He was good attacking and strong in defence and his footwork is the best from a forward I've seen for a while.
Also good to see Walker get a game. I think he's probably our 8th best back row at the club which shows we have some strength in depth. He was very enthusiastic and he has tremondous pace off the mark which really helped him make some metres going into the collision. His defence wasn't too great but he's not the biggest and positioning is hard to get right. I'm sure Maguire will make sure he works on that defensive aspect.
Against Huddersfield I think that side won't stand a chance, so we really need bodies back. If we don't see anyone return to fitness for next week I'd rather have Tuson in than Walker (not through fault of Walker). He's more solid and was MOTM for Cas when they played Huddersfield.
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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"Farrell showed what an outstanding prospect he is and what a good player he's already become last night. It's difficult to play well in a poor side but Farrell did just that. He was good attacking and strong in defence and his footwork is the best from a forward I've seen for a while.
Also good to see Walker get a game. I think he's probably our 8th best back row at the club which shows we have some strength in depth. He was very enthusiastic and he has tremondous pace off the mark which really helped him make some metres going into the collision. His defence wasn't too great but he's not the biggest and positioning is hard to get right. I'm sure Maguire will make sure he works on that defensive aspect.
Against Huddersfield I think that side won't stand a chance, so we really need bodies back. If we don't see anyone return to fitness for next week I'd rather have Tuson in than Walker (not through fault of Walker). He's more solid and was MOTM for Cas when they played Huddersfield.'"
Good to see two former Leyland Warriors players in there - all credit to the set up down at Moss Side
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| Quote ="Pemps"He also has the lowest body fat percentage at the club.'"
It's always nice to be reminded.
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| Quote ="MickeyMo"Good to see two former Leyland Warriors players in there - all credit to the set up down at Moss Side
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| Quote ="Leyland Warrior"icon_thumb.gif [size=50Although that particular side always trained and played at Bamber Bridge!
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True. I must declare an interest, however - I coached the side a year or two below
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| Just echoing everyone else's comments really, I thought Farrel was fantastic both with and without the ball and has cemented himself a starting spot next week. On a positive we did manage to get ourselves into a winning position but sadly let that slip, whether that's down to injury's suffered in the second half, or just complacency I wouldn't like to say.
I'm going to enjoy watching Dixon and Ashurst play for Saints tonight, certain saints fan's keep talking them up, when frankly there nothing more than baggage in already ordinary Saints backrow. Their certainly not a patch on Farrel even though they've had greater game time and experience over him in the last few years.
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| Our average is just short of 15,000 with expected full houses versus Wire & Saints to come!
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| I also thought Feka played well last night.
He made some very big plays and came up with some great off loads as well.
Lets hope he can keep improving cause he'll be a major asset to the side once we’ve got Hansen and Coley back and Lockers back at 13.
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| Quote ="nohalfbacks"He said that Madge was very emotional in the changing room afterwards and had some strong words to say to a few players who had moved away from what they should be doing. He said the team motto is 'Team Me' which he said means that the Team comes first. He said several players had put Me first but he said Madge had spoken to them about this in plain English! Its encouraging that he picks up on the things that matter and tries to put them right straight away.'"
Very interesting. Mike McIlorum was guilty of this last night. Although he got over the line, he lost the ball and we had a huge overlap on the right hand side. He passes the ball we score and perhaps kills the game off.
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| Does anyone know for sure what relation Liam Farrell is to Andy? I've read in some places that he is his cousin but in others 'distant cousin' is the term used! Anyone have any idea how closely related the two actually are?
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| Quote ="cadoo"Very interesting. Mike McIlorum was guilty of this last night. Although he got over the line, he lost the ball and we had a huge overlap on the right hand side. He passes the ball we score and perhaps kills the game off.'"
Sam has been guilty as well.
Spot on from the OP.
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| the thing that is more gutting is that we would have been two more points clear of leeds or saints. big opportunity blown. as much as i hate to say it i think wire are looking stronger than is. Our last three performances have been very very average. i am seriously worried about our fixtures with huddersfield
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| To look on the positive side, better to lose against Quins than against Saints or Wire.
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| The Marketing team, a great effort to pull in such a crowd, a pity we did not get a vintage performance, but we are still top of the league.
Hope the casual fans who turned up last night come back.
Thought the theme of the evening was spot on, pity about the mix up about the minute's silence but that should not detract from all the planning put in.
Well done Mick Hogan and all your staff.
On the field, we had a bad 40mins at the office, I am sure MM and SW will get us back on track.
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