I dont think any coach could make us a dominant force

If we win the grand final then 2 year deal.

If we get to the grand final then 1 year deal.

If we get beat then its time for a new face.

Regardless of what happens we need a new assistant e.g. Wane and a new conditioner to get Feka and Riddell fitter and Fielden and Coley bigger.

What he said.

I agree with you appart from the first 2 statements really.

Mike Forshaw as far as I can see has given us less results than Noble, he has to go.

Roberts took ages to get to fittness and now he is fit he is sheer class and I am glad we signed him, he will only get better.

Feka, Fielden, Riddell, Pryce, Coley and one or two others in one off games just have not looked fit in parts this season and its not good enough. Hudds have done so well through being so fit and up for games.

When all our team look alive and fit we are the 3rd best team in the competition and are top two challengers.

FORSHAW HAS TO GO!

Been saying this for two years! Our conditioning to play is terrible!

I haven't voted because I'd like us to keep Noble anyway but I'm pretty sure we won't.

I have changed my mind over the course of the season, after a run of poor results I was thinking; "lets be patient". Then, the Celtic loss came which, at the time, convinced me we needed someone else.

I have changed my mind again since and decided this several weeks ago before we'd reached 5th and finally 6th place. I just think one more year would be the right thing. We've changed coaches too quickly in the past and although we've given Noble over three and a half seasons I think one more would be the best option.

Hang on, we finished 6th, getting to the GF just papers over the cracks. We are an average team, if we were good we'd be in the top 4, great the top 2, and the very best 1st.

One of the main points of him recieving a new contract would be to play more youngsters.

I was sickened when I watched the reserves grand final to see how good Davies and Walker played and how hard they took the ball in and tackled and yet Noble still hasn't dropped Fielden/Hansen to give them their debuts. I seriously would rather play Davies/Holland/Mossop instead of Fielden in certain games in the season.

If I was coach Davies/Walker would have got their debut against Celtic/Salford in place of Feka/Fielden/Hansen/Tomkins.

Same goes with Flannagan,Mossop and Ainscough but they made their debut due to injuries. We have the best youngsters coming through yet aren't playing them so if Noble does stay he has to play more youngsters.

I am a bit apprehensive about Wane being appointed coach I wouldn't want him to do a Betts as I value him a lot I wouldn't like him to have it all too soon, I would give him the Assistant role.

Davies will be a great player for us. I hope we only sign one new prop when Fielden and Coley leave and play Mossop and Davies and build our pack around them, Farrell also must play.

I agree with you, but there are lots of posters on the "Nobby" thread who seem to think we have no fitness issues. At times I wonder if they are watching the same team as the rest of us...

This is ultimately Noble's responsibility at the club.

Dave

Your right, it is, but ultimately is it fair for Noble to take the rap for something that is ultimately Forshaw and his teams job.

Is it fair for a bank managers head to roll simply because the person handing out loans has been making bad decisions? No, but that's what happens. I wouldn't mind a new coach and new back room staff if I'm honest.

Heard he's signed a new 12 month contract, Carmont offered 12 months but wants a 2 year deal, also he kneeds a shoulder op in the close season.

i vote ...NO

we have gone as far as we can with nobby....we are stagnant and need a change...he has had near 4 years and i honestly dont see much improvement

I heard his playing days where pretty much over, and that he would not be offered a new playing contract at Wigan due to his age, and the severity of his injuries!

With regards to Carmont, i could see the benefits of a 2 year contract, still one the best centres in the league for me, I cant think of anyone else who is availiable who is realistic and better.

His age? I thought bailey was still in his twenties?

Geez,,,Wigan will be in a right pickle IF they can win the GF next week.All season they,,well Ian Lenegan has been scouting all over Oz for a new coach,only to find that thier present coach could take them all the way!!!!!.Personally if i were BN i would tell them were to stick it after alll the rumours if i were in a job or not....

To offer anymore than 1yr would be stupid, his body is falling to bits.

He's gone I'm sorry. End of.

BN is rather fortunate Wigan didn't tell him to stick it every time it was announced that he was looking for another job. It's happened more than once during his tenure at Wigan - Leeds, Warrington, Catalan, Aus, etc.

So possibly what goes around comes around.

Still ... you're right about one thing. They will be in a pickle if they don't appoint someone better.

You going Crunch? I can tell you a good meeting place and we can discuss the merits/Failings of Brian Noble?

I would rather ask myself the question why was he looking for other jobs.

Secondly you cannot mess your coach around and leave him not knowing if he is coming or going and not expect him to look at other options.

Lastly do you have any solid proof that he was looking at these other jobs?

I remember Catalan last year and was he not looking @ Leeds because Maurice & Whelan were a nightmare. Now we have a proper chairman, he wants to say, it makes sense to me.

When did he look @ Wire?

I don't see who we can appoint who is better, Wane may be a good long term option, but we are very close under Noble, unless the appointment is world class, surely IL will be proved to have been to hasty?

Do you have any that he wasn't?

You only need a rumour to get around, and no-one to firmly quash it, and the club and fans are going to start wondering.

That's what happened.

Anyway, I'm not getting into this any further. I've expressed my views pretty clearly, I think. Now all I'm interested in is the match.

How do you get solid proof that he WASN'T looking for another job? You want all the Chairmen to stand up and confirm they haven't spoken to him?
When you're coming to the end of a term contract you have absolutely every right to find a deal to suit you, and if your present employer doesn't snap you up, you are bound to look elsewhere.