Sorry i didn't realise it was a crime to be proud of a Wigan lad performing well in SL.

I’m surprised you’ve not tried to blame all this on IL yet btw. He’s the devil incarnate don’t you know who’s responsible for everything bad that’s ever happened in the world.

There is a difference though between being proud of him doing well and being totally blind to the fact his game still needed some work.

Surely you agree?



Well, now that could never happen. He is faultless. Suffice to say, If everything was exactly as is, but Maurice was chairman, this place would have exploded.

There's no point arguing with fanboys.

Yes he has work to do.

BUT he was arguably the best winger in SL when he was playing and putting Pat and Roberts to shame. Like I said any player that scores four tries in one game does not deserved to be dropped for a player that’s only scored five all season and isn’t that much better in the air either

Well, now that could never happen. He is faultless. Suffice to say, If everything was exactly as is, but Maurice was chairman, this place would have exploded

There is a difference though between having a few grievances about his style and being totally blind to the fact he’s done a lot of good work.

Surely you agree?

That’s because you’re talking utter e and spouting the same duty of care cr@p Noble feeds to the press to cover over the fact he’s dropping a player in form for an overpaid Aussie he signed.

Yeah, I agree. But I would be slightly less forthcoming with the praise of IL than you appear to be.

Ainscough didn't deserve to be dropped when he was, but I cant disagree with not playing him each week, as overall his game isn't yet ready for week in week out SL.

I hope for our new coaches sake, he plays Sam & Ainscough each week, or he will clearly be hounded out of town before he starts.

I personally woyuld have kept colbon.

I think the lad was ok and roberts is no better but a damn site more expensive

I'd be happy if he didn't play him every week as well and I also wouldn't be on the coaches back either if it actually looked like he had a selection plan in place.

If Ainscough is playing out of his skin and scoring a bucket load of tries then he stays in until he's not simple as. If Tomkins is playing out of his skin and getting a MOTM in his first CC quarter final then he stays in the week after simple as.

If Fielden makes four drives against Leeds in one game then he should be dropped. If Piggy is deeply unfit and not performing then he should be dropped. If Roberts has trouble under the high ball (Salford & Saints at home) then don’t cover it up or fail to mention it when you’ve slated a 19 year old for it a few weeks back.

One set of selection rules for one set of players and another set for another group but yet one group is performing and doing us proud whilst the others just simply aren’t

That’s what gets at a lot of fans me included angry.

I agree with that.

I never meant my initial post to come across as Ainscough should play every week regardless of form but I honestly think Noble has been at fault with the whole situation regarding him and Sam.

Maybe Noble decided to make a point in the press about the weaknesses in Ainscough’s game to keep his feet on the floor who knows but I honestly think it did more damage than good.

As my posts on IL show I’m all for keeping things in house in regards to things like this. Noble should have been telling Sky what a talent he was and it’s great for Wigan and the game even if he didn’t believe it or told Shaun differently in training.

The fans should back Noble yes because, he is doing the best he can with the squad he has. I tell you now, he has had little or no input in the signings made in his tenure and this is something that the new coach will have to put up with too

Is it unreasonable to suggest Ainscough has done better than Roberts?

I don't think it is.

Roberts is not some sort of rock in defence and on attack he actually looks poor compared to Ainscough. Do you disagree with is? If so why?

Dave

Then we agree

No, but nor is he the superhero he is potrayed as.

If thats the case would noble wnat to stay?

Thats all very nice but...
To answer the original question...


[u NO [/u

Simple as really.
and it is harming the club and Brian Noble himself the more it is dragged out.

I predict Noble will walk away saying the job had been made impossible with all the speculation about his position undermining him. Thats the only face saving thing left open IMO.

Time will tell, The big question is if we lose today will he be sacked?

i can still remember the mess we were in when millward came and went. the turnaround noble created that season along with fielden and dobson. the rugby became exciting probably due to the pressure we were under every game, the atmosphere and togetherness of the club was as good that half season as it was in our glory years, once we survived we couldn't wait for the next season to start, unfortunately noble along with fielden since then have been one big letdown, the rugby is boring,the atmosphere at the jjb is non existant,the crowds are dwindling and everyone quite rightly is down in the dumps, trent barrett was the reason we managed to hold our heads above the water for the previous seasons.the only way we can move on and get the crowds back and the feelgood factor is to change things again and see if that gets everyone up for it again. don't really know what has gone wrong with noble but for the sake of the club and the fans he needs to go,we are so stale it's untrue.

Replace the 'B' in the title of this topic with a 'S' and im with ya

Yes!!

F*cking rubbish.

People like you really need to get a grip. Brian Noble is the reason why a Wigan team which, on paper, is actually pretty decent, is underperforming to the extent that it's now the worst team in SL.

Noble has been fully involved in recruitment, and is the only one to control team selection. The mess we're in is 99.9% his fault.

Anyone who can't see this is watching the wrong game.

, but have the heart and bottle of a bottom 3 team.
taxi for nobby

In my humble opinion it is time to back him, he's still here and we need to get behind 'Wigan' from now on in. He does a lot of work behind the scenes for Wigan that people don't see and when we get back to our glory years he will have helped us do it with the restructuring of the club etc. Perhaps we could get Mr Wayne Bennett over to give the coaching team some insight into how to be successful.

I would have Adriam Lam back at Wigan but only as an assistant coach to whoever takes over from Mr Noble.

A Coach for the Coach?

I don't think you will find anyone here who is not grateful for everything Noble has done, but the bottom line is can he take us any further or is it time for someone new to come in?

I think from the performances this season it is time for some fresh ideas and impetus from someone else. We are consistently inconsistent!