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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"He would be my number 1 target.'"
Agreed think he is an outstanding talent he will go on in my opinion to become an excellent strike centre, his younger brother Luke is also an excellent prospect.
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"How much do you rate Russel, Rogues?'"
Very highly, great feet, good speed and very good acceleration. The only think is that he not very tall, so would come under pressure with the high kicks.
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| Quote ="jonh"Agreed think he is an outstanding talent he will go on in my opinion to become an excellent strike centre, his younger brother Luke is also an excellent prospect.'"
A centre/wing partnership of Briscoe and Charnley would be very exciting.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Very highly, great feet, good speed and very good acceleration. The only think is that he not very tall, so would come under pressure with the high kicks.'"
Thnx Rogues. His height shouldn't be to much of an issue if his technique is right. You only have to look at the likes of Webb at Leeds and Slater who aren't the tallest, yet perform well under the high ball.
Quote ="Rogues Gallery"A centre/wing partnership of Briscoe and Charnley would be very exciting.'"
Salivating at the thought of it.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"A centre/wing partnership of Briscoe and Charnley would be very exciting.'"
Certain players are worth forking out a transfer fee for. Tom Briscoe definitely qualifies as one. It's not often we produce top quality British backs. An outstanding talent who is completely wasted at Hull FC with Richard Agar as a coach.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"oh look.
It's another 'Phipps has said something I don't like the sound of so lets accuse him of being Barry Mackenzie/AP/[uLeague Freak[/u/etc etc etc'
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Now that you mention it ...
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"oh look.
It's another 'Phipps has said something I don't like the sound of so lets accuse him of being Barry Mackenzie/AP/League Freak/etc etc etc'
FAIL'"
Don't forget Katie Smithson...
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| We are talking about Briscoe at Hull FC here right?
Never looked that good for me and the stats don’t seem to stand out either,
Vs the other England winger Hall;
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=2918&hs2=2010&hp2=3197&stat=tries&season=2011[/url
vs Jodie Broughton
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=4877&hs2=2010&hp2=3197&stat=tries&season=2011[/url
vs a mediocre SL winger in Hodgson
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=573&hs2=2010&hp2=3197&stat=tries&season=2011[/url
vs another winger who was at a low placed side
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=2434&hs2=2010&hp2=3197&stat=tries&season=2011[/url
vs the evil one Karl Pryce
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=1893&hs2=2010&hp2=3197&stat=tries&season=2011[/url
Briscoe is over hyped and massively over rated.
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| I would still love shaun briscoe. I think he is a sound super league player
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"I would still love shaun briscoe. I think he is a sound super league player'"
Not got the pace or the passing game to be a full back in our system.
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| I am glad games are not played on paper if they were every great coach would know sod all about rugby but be a great statistician.
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| I love how people simply dismiss stats when it suits them.
I simply do not think that Briscoe is the next big thing like many on here are making him out to be. I've seen him play both live and on the TV and I’ve yet to be wowed by him but yet reading some of the comments on here he's the next big hope of English RL?
The stats back me up on this one. He’s got comparable numbers to other wingers like Blanch and Broughton who were playing in far worse teams. Lets not forget that although Hull FC weren’t great last season they still had enough to finish 6th in the league. When you compare him to other play off wingers like Hodgson and Hall he’s found serious wanting on all aspects.
Dismiss the stats all you want but sadly he’s neither standing out on my tv or on the screen.
I honestly can’t believe people are saying we should pay a transfer fee for him? That would be the biggest waste of money since Ritchie Myler.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"I love how people simply dismiss stats when it suits them.
I simply do not think that Briscoe is the next big thing like many on here are making him out to be. I've seen him play both live and on the TV and I’ve yet to be wowed by him but yet reading some of the comments on here he's the next big hope of English RL?
The stats back me up on this one. He’s got comparable numbers to other wingers like Blanch and Broughton who were playing in far worse teams. Lets not forget that although Hull FC weren’t great last season they still had enough to finish 6th in the league. When you compare him to other play off wingers like Hodgson and Hall he’s found serious wanting on all aspects.
Dismiss the stats all you want but sadly he’s neither standing out on my tv or on the screen.
I honestly can’t believe people are saying we should pay a transfer fee for him? That would be the biggest waste of money since Ritchie Myler.'"
Its not about dismissing stats its about using them as part of the equation. Not as a marker or be all and end all. Some of the best players in the world have high mistake/unforced error counts.
Some of Benji Marshalls stats this year must be shocking the number of unforced errors he makes, but he is still the best player in the world.....go figure.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"I love how people simply dismiss stats when it suits them.
I simply do not think that Briscoe is the next big thing like many on here are making him out to be. I've seen him play both live and on the TV and I’ve yet to be wowed by him but yet reading some of the comments on here he's the next big hope of English RL?
The stats back me up on this one. He’s got comparable numbers to other wingers like Blanch and Broughton who were playing in far worse teams. Lets not forget that although Hull FC weren’t great last season they still had enough to finish 6th in the league. When you compare him to other play off wingers like Hodgson and Hall he’s found serious wanting on all aspects.
Dismiss the stats all you want but sadly he’s neither standing out on my tv or on the screen.
I honestly can’t believe people are saying we should pay a transfer fee for him? That would be the biggest waste of money since Ritchie Myler.'"
You can't dismiss stats, but you also can't use them as the fulcrum of your argument. Stats are very subjective and are never clear cut. For example, the stats for the number of tackles made wont demonstrate the importance of certain tackles.Like making an 80 metre chase back to tackle a player on a break or like that world-class tackle made on Peter Fox in the Hull derby. You also have to acknowledge that Ryan Hall is playing outside of Keith Senior in a very good Rhinos side and David Hodgson was having Brett Hodgson laying tries on a plate for him in a very good Huddersfield side too. They're going to get far more opportunities whereas Tom Briscoe was playing in a very, very mediocre Hull FC side coached by an utterly atrocious coach in Richard Agar and it's not like he's blown out the water in terms of stats by either player.
The lad is a top talent.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"www.dailystar.co.uk/rugby/view/188352/James-Graham-is-a-British-Bulldog-/
roy asotasi (middle of the article) if he's interested in coming over we should certainly be interested'"
Souths will be delighted to get rid of him, he has been absolutely awful this season.
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| A poor half season after years of quality and he's crap? Behave yourself.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"A poor half season after years of quality and he's crap? Behave yourself.'"
He had a terrible 2010 and looked bad this year as well. I hope saints don't touch him but could turn out to be great buy.
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| Quote ="St pete"He had a terrible 2010 and looked bad this year as well. I hope saints don't touch him but could turn out to be great buy.'"
Mind those fence splinters in yer ass....
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Mind those fence splinters in yer ass....'"
Ok I'll put it this way. He's been a top class prop and at one time seen as the best prop in the world but on current form over last year and start of this he's been terrible and IMO looks finished.
Saying that, the move to super league may help him but as I said I'd not like saints to sign him as he looks like a player that's on his last legs and finished.
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"Souths will be delighted to get rid of him, he has been absolutely awful this season.'"
He is getting rave reviews on the NRL coverage, watched the last couple of games and he has been one of the top performers. Watched the game against the Sharks and he was looking good again until a wrist injury. Talk of him playing for the Kiwis again, so he is not as bad as you seem think.
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| Do we really need another prop?
Prescott
Mossop
Lima
Hock
Fielden
Crosby
All signed up for next year, possibly Davies + O'Carroll to earn new contracts.
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| Quote ="The Ginger Pearl"Do we really need another prop?
Prescott
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Crosby
All signed up for next year, possibly Davies + O'Carroll to earn new contracts.'"
Depends on the managements vision for the team. If they intend to keep Tomkins at centre then we need either a prop or SR. I'd rather have a prop and keep Hock or Mossop at SR for the time being.
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| what we need is another george carmont esq centre.
An overseas player that will be committed and provide great value for money within our wage structure.
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| Never quite got the fuss with Asotasi whilst on top form tbh. I saw him play a few times for the kiwis and he seemed pretty easy to handle really and I always thought he must be doing things in the NRL I just don't get to see. As it is I here he's lost form swell so I'd leave well alone and try to get Coley to stay on another year.
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