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| Quote ="Steinlager"A few things wer e clear from Nobby, and agai simple poitns:
Every young player is different and develops differently.
Noble and the other coaches cover more rugby time with them than you, me or any other on this forum.
Theyy are best placed to make the judgement on the readyness, and also how long they stay there.
Well said Nobby.'"
So all our players developed later than the rest of the RL world?
As I say it was not convincing and anybody can use duty of care. Trust me I work in Education.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I still can't help asking the question though of where's all the money gone for 09? Barrett, Calderwood, Higham and Colbon gone. All gone on Riddell and Roberts?
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| Quote ="MattyB"She posts on here.
[size=59Yes, I think everyone did[/size'"
Well yes if you read this you were annoying, making comments under your breath all time haha.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I think its become clear now if it hasn't been for a while that Lenagan was wrong to make that comment.
I was always expecting 2010 to be the earliest when we could expect to be
challenging Leeds and Saints again as this is when we can really do something with the squad.
I still can't help asking the question though of where's all the money gone for 09? Barrett, Calderwood, Higham and Colbon gone. All gone on Riddell and Roberts?
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"Quote ="wiganstripleL"
I cannot recall sorry. The one at the Deanery?
I actually enjoyed listening to Noble far more than anybody else there. He needs a forum just for playing issues. I just cannot accept him using Joel as an example of planning. Joel did not suffer when he came in under Millward. He even had offloading skills then. In the Alliance pre his Widnes loan, Joel was in awesome form. It was partly interrupted by injury when he broke a bone in his hand defending himself from Matty Smith but he was ignored when he was in great form. He lost motivation. Noble publicly stated that he did not expect Joel to play in 2008 and if Lockers had not been injured he would not have played. The reason he got better and better was that he got a run of games to adjust to the pace of SL.
Will Lee Mossop play in 2009? No. He will go out on loan. Lee was dropped in favour of Tuson in 2008 and the reason, he played too much like a prop in his previous SL game.'" '"
yeh was deanery mate!! iv actually spoken to you alot on other forum aswell!!
well i suppose well find out this yr how true noble is to his word!!
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| Quote ="cherryandwhitedavid06"Well yes if you read this you were annoying, making comments under your breath all time haha.'"
The lady concerned is a great supporter and does not deserve such criticism. At least she speaks.
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| Quote ="Conroy"I fully hope you enjoy the Championship. Feel free to ask for details of any venues
Don't know why people thought any different about the Stadium usage to be honest. DW owns the stadium so he gets to dictate what is what. It's common sense really.'"
I would hope common sense would prevail (even for him) and that he would request the FA Cup game to be played on the Sunday.
Won't hold my breath though!
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"So all our players developed later than the rest of the RL world?
As I say it was not convincing and anybody can use duty of care. Trust me I work in Education.'"
Education Trust me I've worked a high as you can in education and that doesn't make me a beter judge of players.
Our players aren't developing later than other players over in this country, maybe in Australia but the hole infrastructure is different.
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"The lady concerned is a great supporter and does not deserve such criticism. At least she speaks.'"
Aye i'm only having a laugh, she told lenagan what she thought so fair play just was a bit annoying at time.
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| Quote ="wiganstripleL"Quote ="Charlie Seeling"
yeh was deanery mate!! iv actually spoken to alot on other forum aswell!!
well i suppose well find out this yr how true noble is to his word!!'" '"
I cannot recollect you on warriors.com? Different name?
We will indeed. I would love for it to happen and for our team to improve.
Every young player bar Sam has been offered to a club on loan.
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| Quote ="Steinlager"Education
Trust me I've worked a high as you can in education and that doesn't make me a beter judge of players.
Our players aren't developing later than other players over in this country, maybe in Australia but the hole infrastructure is different.'"
mmmmm modern education...
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| I thoroughly enjoyed the forum and came away very happy for the future of the club.
I thought Ian Lenegan was very up front, honest yet had a stubborn streak and didn't pussy foot around any questions nor the people asking them, which was good to see.
Mick Hogan had plenty to say and had a clear vision of what the club is aiming for and how to go about it, and he spoke with confidence.
I've never seen Brian Noble so enthusiastic and animated. You kind of got a glimpse of how he is on the training pitch and the changing rooms and what he said was interesting and made plenty of sense.
Whether or not people agree with what any of the three people say or not, they expressed their opinions, thoughts and idead better than anybody's posts on any forum and was left happy and confident with what they had to say.
....However, I'm still uneasy on the stadium/lease situation. We admitingly come second in the stadium, yet we're forced to accept what the 'stadium company' (who in my opinion is just Dave Whelan) say what is allowed and what isn't but we should be happy because we get good rates and all other clubs that ground share have the same problems.
Unfortunately, it just seems we have to put up with it.
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"Quote ="wiganstripleL"
I cannot recollect you on warriors.com? Different name?
We will indeed. I would love for it to happen and for our team to improve.
Every young player bar Sam has been offered to a club on loan.'" '"
i've told you a million times not to exaggerate.
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"Quote ="wiganstripleL"
I cannot recollect you on warriors.com? Different name?
We will indeed. I would love for it to happen and for our team to improve.
Every young player bar Sam has been offered to a club on loan.'" '"
yeh different one on there!
might not be the worst thing for the young lads go on loan?
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"mmmmm modern education...
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I've made a lot of typos tonight, as i'm using a tiny keyboard. Although English has never been my forte.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"I thoroughly enjoyed the forum and came away very happy for the future of the club.
I thought Ian Lenegan was very up front, honest yet had a stubborn streak and didn't pussy foot around any questions nor the people asking them, which was good to see.
Mick Hogan had plenty to say and had a clear vision of what the club is aiming for and how to go about it, and he spoke with confidence.
I've never seen Brian Noble so enthusiastic and animated. You kind of got a glimpse of how he is on the training pitch and the changing rooms and what he said was interesting and made plenty of sense.
Whether or not people agree with what any of the three people say or not, they expressed their opinions, thoughts and idead better than anybody's posts on any forum and was left happy and confident with what they had to say.
....However, I'm still uneasy on the stadium/lease situation. We admitingly come second in the stadium, yet we're forced to accept what the 'stadium company' (who in my opinion is just Dave Whelan) say what is allowed and what isn't but we should be happy because we get good rates and all other clubs that ground share have the same problems.
Unfortunately, it just seems we have to put up with it.'"
You should have a chat with him when he's had a few
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| Quote ="Woody_woody"You should have a chat with him when he's had a few
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Moral of the story buy him a few drinks before the forum starts
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| Anyway, will the pies be ready in the West Stand in time for the Wakefield game?
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| Quote ="Steinlager"Education
Trust me I've worked a high as you can in education and that doesn't make me a beter judge of players.
Our players aren't developing later than other players over in this country, maybe in Australia but the hole infrastructure is different.'"
I never said it did. The comment re duty of care was because in Education it is similarly used to 'bull' / make excuses
In terms of players. I will give you an example Ainscough is never going to get more muscular, defined, stronger. He wasted 2008 in the Academy. He went to Aus, played superbly and was given some reserve time. How does he go from Academy to First Team in weeks? It is illogical.
You can compare our youngsters against any in any SL club. They are physically stronger/tougher yet their rivals at other clubs are playing SL. RLWorld has a very good interview with the 3 Cas youngsters.
My own sporting knowledge comes from 3 generations involved in sport and playing sport to a high level myself.
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Which means someone did put their name on a made-up shirt - YOU!
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Which means someone did put their name on a made-up shirt - YOU!
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| Quote ="MattyB"Anyway, will the pies be ready in the West Stand in time for the Wakefield game?
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I think they will get that one right, along with the beer - prices?
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Which means someone did put their name on a made-up shirt - YOU!
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But it was well after the Huddersfield game (the only game they attended) that they attended.
I'm not taking the fall for this one
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| Quote ="MattyB"Anyway, will the pies be ready in the West Stand in time for the Wakefield game?
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That was the point where I walked out. Ashamed to be a Wigan fan
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| Quote ="wiganstripleL"Quote ="Charlie Seeling"
yeh different one on there!
might not be the worst thing for the young lads go on loan?'" '"
It is a good thing if they only get to play reserves at Wigan.
Saints have an U16 Academy Tour to Aus scheduled for 2009, Tyrer and Smith had season long loans arranged months ago with Celtic Crusaders. I loathe Saints doing things better than ourselves.
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