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| Quote ="Boris"Externl funding? Are Sky suddenly going to cancel their Television coverage? As for 'support' from external avenues-RL does not get any. The 'maintstream' media could not give a poop about RL.
Sport England allowed athletes to miss 3 drugs tests and still run in the Olympics.
Taking cocaine, whilst not desirbale, imo is a trivial matter. All he needs is a good slap and told to get off the stuff so he can perform better on the pitch.'"
You keep coming back to 'a good slap'. Do you mean this metaphorically or literally?
He's a professioanl rugby league player and tough as nails. Who do you propose gives him this 'good slap'.
As a professional he is well aware of the implications of drug use; whether recreational or performance enhacing. Whether you agree with the lack of distinction between the two is irrelevant. The fact remains what he has done warrants a two year ban.
Neither Hock nor the club should appeal such a ban; there are no grounds for doing so.
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| Quote ="Panda Antics"You keep coming back to 'a good slap'. Do you mean this metaphorically or literally?
He's a professioanl rugby league player and tough as nails. Who do you propose gives him this 'good slap'.
As a professional he is well aware of the implications of drug use; whether recreational or performance enhacing. Whether you agree with the lack of distinction between the two is irrelevant. The fact remains what he has done warrants a two year ban.
Neither Hock nor the club should appeal such a ban; there are no grounds for doing so.'"
Who decides that it warrants a two year ban?
The grounds for appealling are that we will be without one of our best players. Obviously we would not use such an argument in a court-we would let the lawyers come up with some nonsense-but that is our grounds for fighting this.
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| Quote ="Boris"I don't care about anything other than Wigan winning.'"
SO you dont have a lot to care about these days do you?
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| Quote ="Boris"Who decides that it warrants a two year ban?
The grounds for appealling are that we will be without one of our best players. Obviously we would not use such an argument in a court-we would let the lawyers come up with some nonsense-but that is our grounds for fighting this.'"
So you want to challenge something that has been legally agreed upon between the RFL and the WADA??
Good luck with that. The more I read of your posts, I just feel you are an obvious troll because someone couldnt be this clueless
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| Quote ="Batesy"I have to agree.
If I was the boss of a company and one of my employees was caught taking drugs or doing anything criminal, he/she'd be out the door like a shot. Simply for the image of the company, even more so if the company was an international company permenantly in the limelight.'"
Depends how important that person was to your business
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| Quote ="loobyfromorrell"Depends how important that person was to your business'"
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| Quote ="Happy Tom"So you want to challenge something that has been legally agreed upon between the RFL and the WADA??
Good luck with that. The more I read of your posts, I just feel you are an obvious troll because someone couldnt be this clueless'"
It took you 6 posts to realise that?
Well done.
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| Quote ="Boris"It took you 6 posts to realise that?
Well done.
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Shock. Internet poster looks clueless and claims he was a troll all along.
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| Quote ="Happy Tom"Shock. Internet poster looks clueless and claims he was a troll all along.'"
So you admit you're a troll then?
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| Quote ="Boris"Who decides that it warrants a two year ban?
The grounds for appealling are that we will be without one of our best players. Obviously we would not use such an argument in a court-we would let the lawyers come up with some nonsense-but that is our grounds for fighting this.'" Oh dear i've never heared so much **** in all my life
Why fight it they caught him and he was daft enough to do it in the first place so he should take it like a man sort his life out and come back with a better attitude
I've seen posts with people saying if someone's boss caught them blah blah blah this is no normal job these are very well payed ATHLETES they know the rules from day 1 if they dont like dont play simple go get a 9-5
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| Quote ="jonh"I know a few and to be honest if he had a major problem he would not be able to train and play. Seems to me, like all the rest of the lads that are on the stuff in the game they take it socially. They are not coke reliant they could not do what they did if they were.
They have a dabble when they are out with there mates they are not waking up and banging the stuff down there faces from waking to sleep.
My ignorance does me no credit, sadly Jack your posting history and agenda 99% of the time does you no credit.'"
So your answer to dealing with people who are on drugs is just to ignore it?
Don't try to deflect the issue on to me, when your own views on this are plainly ridiculous.
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| Quote ="king warrior"Oh dear i've never heared so much **** in all my life
Why fight it they caught him and he was daft enough to do it in the first place so he should take it like a man sort his life out and come back with a better attitude
I've seen posts with people saying if someone's boss caught them blah blah blah this is no normal job these are very well payed ATHLETES they know the rules from day 1 if they dont like dont play simple go get a 9-5'"
This is very well in a theoretical world but at the sharp end Wigan is going to lose one of its better players for at least 2 years. This is what we have to considor.
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| Quote ="Happy Tom"Shock. Internet poster looks clueless and claims he was a troll all along.'"
Hardly clueless. Just espousing that Wigan should stand by its players.
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| Quote ="Boris"This is very well in a theoretical world but at the sharp end Wigan is going to lose one of its better players for at least 2 years. This is what we have to considor.'"
Once again that is so incredibly narrow minded it is untrue, I would rather wigan lost every single game than for the example that they are setting to the young fans of the sport to be it's absolutely fine to do illegal drugs.
Of course every Wigan fan wants to win every game, but you have to draw a line where other things become more important than a game. Hock should accept whatever punishment is given to him, and rightly it should be a lengthy ban from the game. The club should then throughout this period ensure that he has been given a massive kick up the ar se and that he earns his right to play in the cherry and white again by doing work in the community to set a better example than the one that has just been splashed over all the papers.
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| Quote ="inside_man"Once again that is so incredibly narrow minded it is untrue, I would rather wigan lost every single game than for the example that they are setting to the young fans of the sport to be it's absolutely fine to do illegal drugs.
Of course every Wigan fan wants to win every game, but you have to draw a line where other things become more important than a game. Hock should accept whatever punishment is given to him, and rightly it should be a lengthy ban from the game. The club should then throughout this period ensure that he has been given a massive kick up the ar se and that he earns his right to play in the cherry and white again by doing work in the community to set a better example than the one that has just been splashed over all the papers.'"
After he has been given the correct treatment for his problem.
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| Quote ="Boris"This is very well in a theoretical world but at the sharp end Wigan is going to lose one of its better players for at least 2 years. This is what we have to considor.'"
You are talking absolute rubbish.
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| Quote ="Boris"Hardly clueless. Just espousing that Wigan should stand by its players.'"
I have no qualms with this. But there is standing by someone and there is making the whole situation a lot worse. The best thing Wigan can do is accept the ban and offer him support by way of counselling. But then, you cant blame Wigan if they just wash their hands of him.
I dont for one minute believe that Wigan were not aware of his antics away from the field, so maybe they have tried to help him already?
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| Quote ="inside_man"Once again that is so incredibly narrow minded it is untrue, I would rather wigan lost every single game than for the example that they are setting to the young fans of the sport to be it's absolutely fine to do illegal drugs.
Of course every Wigan fan wants to win every game, but you have to draw a line where other things become more important than a game. Hock should accept whatever punishment is given to him, and rightly it should be a lengthy ban from the game. The club should then throughout this period ensure that he has been given a massive kick up the ar se and that he earns his right to play in the cherry and white again by doing work in the community to set a better example than the one that has just been splashed over all the papers.'"
After he has been given the correct treatment for his problem.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"After he has been given the correct treatment for his problem.'" He's been to rehab before 'allegedly'
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| I still can't see this rumour being true. I really am beginning to doubt it has happened.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"After he has been given the correct treatment for his problem.'"
absolutely, by all means. But i imagine it would come to light that he does tend to take it more recreational, because surely if it was a much longer lasting problem it would have been picked up in earlier tests?
HOPEFULLY Hock does only use it recreationally, meaning that the fact his career is currently in ruins would act a massive kick up the ar se and the inspiration to turn his life around and stop doing stupid stuff like this.
if he has a more serious problem, then the club has much more blame on themselves, because you cannot tell me that it would not be noticeable that a professional athlete who is constantly under scrutiny for his physical side was a coke addict.
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| Quote ="king warrior"He's been to rehab before 'allegedly''"
It didn't work then, did it.
However, maybe we should just kick him out on the streets like jonh suggests?
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