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| There is no happier man in Wigan tonight, than Shaun Wane.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"I hope he does.
I thought he he was pretty useless in his second stint with us but give the guy his due he seems to be turning it around and does far more minutes than he was ever allowed at our place.
Good on him.'"
Interesting listening to his post match comments.
Watson has made him once again ‘fall in love’ with the game. A sign of good coaching and man management to get the most out of a player who seemed to be on the decline.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"There is no happier man in Wigan tonight, than Shaun Wane.'"
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Yes its mostly Lams fault. He is the coach and it is his responsibility to make sure that the players do not make those errors by having them prepared and focused. For the past two weeks we have not looked anything like prepared and focused. A well coached team does not make basic errors over and over.'"
A poorly coached team doesn't make it to 2nd in the league either.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Lee Mossop could lift the SL trophy next week. Let that sink in...'"
On one side of the coin it’s laughable that his ilk could do that but on the other I do want to throw plenty of praise about Salford getting everything they can out of their team. At no point tonight was I really angry about what was happening on the field because for the second game in a row it wasn’t a contest, it was pitiful. I sat with my mate who is only a casual RL fan and he was asking me what to expect after last week and I said I would hope that Lam has said to take the emotion out of the game, get to the kick in the first set and bang some heads on our first defensive set. Sadly not.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Regardless of whether anyone thinks Lam is good enough to coach this team (jury's still out for me) on tonight's performance you certainly can't blame him for:
* Kicking the ball out on the full - twice.
* Passing the ball into touch - three times.
* Knocking on at the play the ball - twice.
* Giving away kickable penalties for high shots/flops - four times?
That's down to the players. Now maybe he can share some of the blame for not getting our players 'up for it' two weeks in a row. But the whole team have put out two shockers on the trot. Credit does need to go to the opposition on this as well though.'"
But Lam is a coach not a spectator. When the team plays rubbish and makes obvious mistakes like holding off in defence v Saints you expect him to address it. Not by saying "don't do that again" but by giving them some ideas as to how to play differently.
The buck has always stopped with the coach and we have seen what difference a good coach can make when Madge arrived. Look at the comments re Lee Mossop. Our team looks a lot less "in love" with the game than he does.
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| There is somewhat of an over reaction here which is entirely predictable given the last two results.
Lam should stay and fully prove his mettle in 2020. This season has been a rollercoaster to paraphrase AL and couldn’t have been the easiest to manage and coach in. He deserves a shot at 2020 for getting us to where he did despite it being wholly unlikely a few months ago.
Should he not deliver and the standard continues he must go but that’s a debate for much further down the line.
Yes we were poor, far away from the standards we set under Wane but let’s be fair we never envisaged we’d be here. Well played to Salford and here’s hoping for a new name on the Super League trophy.
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| Wigan need to be ruthless, no more picking players because they’re a good bloke.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"There is no happier man in Wigan tonight, than The_Enforcer.'"
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| Well hopefully the beginning of next season won't be anywhere near as shambolic as this season's start.
That would help immensely.
Realistically you'd think only Gildart is in with a shout of a tour spot so they should at least have a proper pre-season together.
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"Wigan need to be ruthless, no more picking players because they’re a good bloke.'"
No chance of that happening at the moment when the coach gets the job because he’s mates with the Chief Exec.
Wane’s bloody mindedness papered over the cracks the past few seasons, but now he’s gone the recruitment and retention ”strategy” over the last few years is finally catching up with us at an alarmingly brutal rate. While everyone will be happy with Hastings and Burgess, again we’ve seen some truly awful contract extensions for the likes of Clubb, Hankinson and Joe Burgess.
The biggest problem at the club is Radlinski and he needs to go.
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| Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"No chance of that happening at the moment when the coach gets the job because he’s mates with the Chief Exec.
Wane’s bloody mindedness papered over the cracks the past few seasons, but now he’s gone the recruitment and retention ”strategy” over the last few years is finally catching up with us at an alarmingly brutal rate. While everyone will be happy with Hastings and Burgess, again we’ve seen some truly awful contract extensions for the likes of Clubb, Hankinson and Joe Burgess.
The biggest problem at the club is Radlinski and he needs to go.'"
I thought that I was the exclusive member of that club.
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| The biggest problem today was a lack of effort.
All night our defensive line took two steps forward then waited for the Salford player to run into (or indeed around) them. As a result they rolled down the pitch all match. You can't win like that.
I assume it was simply that the team was absolutely knackered as last week and this were both meek surrenders.
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| Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"No chance of that happening at the moment when the coach gets the job because he’s mates with the Chief Exec.
Wane’s bloody mindedness papered over the cracks the past few seasons, but now he’s gone the recruitment and retention ”strategy” over the last few years is finally catching up with us at an alarmingly brutal rate. While everyone will be happy with Hastings and Burgess, again we’ve seen some truly awful contract extensions for the likes of Clubb, Hankinson and Joe Burgess.
The biggest problem at the club is Radlinski and he needs to go.'"
So you actually think IL defers to Rads on the recruitment and retention ”strategy”? Really?
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| Quote ="DaveO"So you actually think IL defers to Rads on the recruitment and retention ”strategy”? Really?'"
Radlinski certainly took control in the past when IL was busy with other things - that’s from a player agent. I’m led to believe IL has become more hands-on recently.
Radlinski was/is defacto “rugby director”.
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| Quote ="Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy"Radlinski certainly took control in the past when IL was busy with other things - that’s from a player agent. I’m led to believe IL has become more hands-on recently.
Radlinski was/is defacto “rugby director”.'"
So does being “rugby director” equate to currently being exclusively in charge of recruitment/retention without having to consult IL?
Does IL have no input into what the “rugby director” wants to do re retention or recruitment?
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| Quote ="apollosghost"Well hopefully the beginning of next season won't be anywhere near as shambolic as this season's start.
That would help immensely.
Realistically you'd think only Gildart is in with a shout of a tour spot so they should at least have a proper pre-season together.'"
Gildart shouldnt be near the GB team, hes another thats gone backwards. For the last half of the season his form has been poor. He seems to be playing more like Sarginson. just making carries. I cant remember the last time he got the ball to Burgess with good centre play. The only good attacking play i remember from him recently was his try v Salford two weeks ago. I think Percival is seriously over rated but id have him ahead of Gildart right now and we all know Bennett will pick Watkins for right centre.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Gildart shouldnt be near the GB team, hes another thats gone backwards. For the last half of the season his form has been poor. He seems to be playing more like Sarginson. just making carries. I cant remember the last time he got the ball to Burgess with good centre play. The only good attacking play i remember from him recently was his try v Salford two weeks ago. I think Percival is seriously over rated but id have him ahead of Gildart right now and we all know Bennett will pick Watkins for right centre.'"
Gildart hasn’t had the service from our halves
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| Quote ="Brick with eyes"Gildart hasn’t had the service from our halves'"
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Lee Mossop could lift the SL trophy next week. Let that sink in...'"
If he can lift it, can’t raise his arms high enough without dislocating his shoulder
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| Some good points. Many players have gone backward in their game this season as they’re being poorly coached.
Give Justin Holbrook, Bennett, Bellamy, Robinson this team and watch the same players fly.
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| Quote ="DaveO"So does being “rugby director” equate to currently being exclusively in charge of recruitment/retention without having to consult IL?
Does IL have no input into what the “rugby director” wants to do re retention or recruitment?'"
Radlinski writes the cheques, Leneghan signs them.
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| Quote ="hatty"Radlinski writes the cheques, Leneghan signs them.'"
Maybe it’s all Radlinski’s fault then if he appointed everyone?
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Maybe it’s all Radlinski’s fault then if he appointed everyone?'"
I’m not saying it’s all his fault but he is a major player in this
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Some good points. Many players have gone backward in their game this season as they’re being poorly coached.
Give Justin Holbrook, Bennett, Bellamy, Robinson this team and watch the same players fly.'"
Have to agree..Holbrook has impressed me t saints,hasn’t made many changes really just coached players to get the best of their ability out of them
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