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| Quote ="WARRIOR5"Hankinson absolutely superb tonight. Managed to tame Hurrell and kicked perfectly.
One for the haters.'"
He was outstanding. The kicking in particular was a joy to watch given our struggles in that department since Richards left. It’s a string to his bow which could help keep him in the team.
Tough choice now when Hardaker is back because the energy Sarginson brings from the back is invaluable as well.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"He was outstanding. The kicking in particular was a joy to watch given our struggles in that department since Richards left. It’s a string to his bow which could help keep him in the team.
Tough choice now when Hardaker is back because the energy Sarginson brings from the back is invaluable as well.'"
I’d bring Hardaker in for Marshall. Sarginson can be as energetic bringing the ball back from the wing, Hardaker is better and more experienced for last ditch fullback tackles.
Some yardage and size in that back five too!
Hardaker
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"He was outstanding. The kicking in particular was a joy to watch given our struggles in that department since Richards left. It’s a string to his bow which could help keep him in the team.
Tough choice now when Hardaker is back because the energy Sarginson brings from the back is invaluable as well.'"
Anyone who wants criticise Sarignson needs to take a long hard look in the mirror.
As always (same at HKR last week) another 80 minutes of tremendous effort.
And again, another 80 from Isa
That must be his 17th/18th 80 in a row?
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| Quote ="WARRIOR5"Hankinson absolutely superb tonight. Managed to tame Hurrell and kicked perfectly.
One for the haters.'"
Absolutely made up to be wrong on my forecast tonight.
Not pretty but great teamwork.
Hankison's kicking was brilliant.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Anyone who wants criticise Sarignson needs to take a long hard look in the mirror.
As always (same at HKR last week) another 80 minutes of tremendous effort.
And again, another 80 from Isa
That must be his 17th/18th 80 in a row?'"
Agreed Sarginson played very well. Made some mistakes defensively in the first half though e.g. Merrin try, so couldn’t put him over Hardaker. As another poster said, need Sarginson, Hardaker and Hankinson all in the squad... just not sure how.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Anyone who wants criticise Sarignson needs to take a long hard look in the mirror.
As always (same at HKR last week) another 80 minutes of tremendous effort.
And again, another 80 from Isa
That must be his 17th/18th 80 in a row?'"
They’re targets when we lose and that’s a real shame because both are great squad players in a salary capped sport. I hope we’re in talks with Sarginson to extend his stay. If we could just get a deal over the line to have him as a pure utility covering across the back line it would be smart business for me.
Funny to see the pair of them pushing and shoving at each other on the way off at half time. With some players you’d worry about team spirit but I believe they’re good mates and I’d take it as a sign of passion.
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| Thought his tackling was excellent, showed that hitting low is the way to go
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| Fair play to Powell as well, he put the shift in and took a few for the team
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"Fair play to Powell as well, he put the shift in and took a few for the team'"
So sarge, isa and Powell
3 of the players that certain fans want to have a go at are 3 of the better players playing 80mins again like every week.
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| Great night with Saints tonking Hudds, hopefully Catalans and Wire will do us a favour tomorrow and with one of Salford/Wakey losing points on Sunday maybe we can start looking up and not over our shoulders.
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| Though Powell ran well from dummy half for a change, looked a proper hooker today, long may it continue
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| Great effort and structure in defence, bar a couple of slip ups.
Clubb's stepped up a gear since signing a contract (normally goes the other way with our lot), Powell was all over the show but I thought Farrell was a class above - thank god he's back.
Having said that our attacking game and general kicking was very poor again. I only say that after a win as Lam's post match comments have gone way OTT, not for the first time. We're a poor team but hopefully these wins might be a bit of a springboard.
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| It certainly wasn’t a pretty spectacle and our attack and attacking kicks are still some way off but it was enough to beat a far below par Leeds team.
I’m not really sure how Powell was MOM; repeatedly gave away penalties for ripping the ball and offered little in attack but credit where it’s due he was brilliant in defence.
Hankinson stepped up a gear for me too managing to keep a dangerous Hurrell generally quiet and he made some outstanding one on one tackles. In attack he didn’t really put a foot wrong. An encouraging performance from him and certainly a step in the right direction to prove some of us, me included, wrong.
Clubb looks a different player from the one pre contract signing. He was solid in attack, nothing spectacular but a prop isn’t supposed to be. Just solid and consistent throughout.
I’m not sure what the thought process behind putting Sammut on the bench and not bringing him on was. My only guess is that he was there as a contingency for injuries. His non inclusion, even when we were lacking in creativity, speaks volumes about Lam’s opinion of him.
Pleased to see Liam Farrell back up to his old tricks and linking up well with Williams and Gildart. Smithies was outstanding once again, what a talent he is. A very promising player. Partington played well, ran a fantastic line for his try too.
I concur with MadDogg re Lam’s post match interview. He made us sound like world beaters when we’re hundreds of country miles away from the standard St Helens have set. If you watched their drubbing of Huddersfield highlights, their attack puts ours to shame.
Not pretty but a win is a win. Huddersfield up next which is unpredictable. I hope we kick on from here now and just keep improving week on week.
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| Against Leeds any other year we get demolished. I'm relieved at the win, I'm not enthused by it. We still look bang average at best, very poor with the ball. Some great effort and endeavour, but no craft, no intelligence.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"Against Leeds any other year we get demolished. I'm relieved at the win, I'm not enthused by it. We still look bang average at best, very poor with the ball. Some great effort and endeavour, but no craft, no intelligence.'"
No craft? Did u miss Gildarts try? For gods sake, just give some credit where it’s due!
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| Quote ="ChrisA"Against Leeds any other year we get demolished. I'm relieved at the win, I'm not enthused by it. We still look bang average at best, very poor with the ball. Some great effort and endeavour, but no craft, no intelligence.'"
To be fair, we won the league last year based on effort and endeavour only. Won’t get carried away either but a win is a win and we’re two points away from the play offs (probably speaks volumes about the general quality of the SL).
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| Quote ="Jukesays"So sarge, isa and Powell
3 of the players that certain fans want to have a go at are 3 of the better players playing 80mins again like every week.'"
3 lads who do not get enough credit. Problem is that they can all do a job if the balance of the team is right but they are not world beaters in themselves. What we are lacking is the wow factor, the Batman to their Robin.
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| Quote ="Levrier"3 lads who do not get enough credit. Problem is that they can all do a job if the balance of the team is right but they are not world beaters in themselves. What we are lacking is the wow factor, the Batman to their Robin.'"
You spelt Bateman wrong!
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| We’re certainly crying out for some direction out of halfback as the kicking game from Tommy was very ordinary again but I can’t fault the endeavour and the body language tonight. I said in the stand at 14-11 down that I would be happier in defeat on the efforts of tonight then I was with the victory last Sunday at HKR. We looked like we’d rather have been anywhere but Hull last Sunday but whatever words were spoken after that game certainly seemed to at least stir the energy levels and the noise levels up a couple of levels.
We’re about 3 or 4 quality players shy of Saints at the minute and that’s before debating the coach but things can turn quickly. Here’s hoping we have the finances to get the players we need for 2020.
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| Quote ="ChrisA"Against Leeds any other year we get demolished. I'm relieved at the win, I'm not enthused by it. We still look bang average at best, very poor with the ball. Some great effort and endeavour, but no craft, no intelligence.'"
If we're picking Leeds sides from previous seasons can we pick a Wigan side from previous years too?
I'd like to see Leeds 2015 v Wigan 2010 or Leeds 2004 v Wigan 2000.
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| We should enjoy tonight for what it was and that’s just getting the two points. Probably the poorest standard Leeds v Wigan game I can recall, with both of us being way off what we should be in terms of cap spend.
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| Can't disagree with much that has been said, We beat a very ordinary Leeds side thanks to good goal-kicking and a real dig in defence, but our attack is still way off and, as I've said before, we are way too reliant 0n Williams or Gildart producing some thing out of nothing.
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| I'm been banging the Sarge drum for a while & i had to laugh at some comments I've seen online of people questioning why he's in over Escare.
Sarge brings a Tomkins esq skill set to the team, which lets us go back to the shape / tactics that the guyd are comfortable with. I honestly think him being at FB could be the catalyst to freeing up out stuttering attack.
I'd bring ZH back into the side and on the wing.
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| And that Clubb 'try' was a really terrible decision! OK, it didn't effect the result, but it was still very poor.
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| I think we need to remember that we are a side lacking in confidence and looking over our shoulder. That can impact our fluidity in attack.
I think the Clubb try at the end will do us a world of good. The psychology of the win changed with that moment from one of relief that we managed to hang on to one of enjoyment of the win.
We have a long way to go but there’s a decent team in there somewhere.
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