Ok then. Geriatric Gidley did alright last night.

Well you know what a $hit memory these Saints fans have!

So you're pleased that a 30 plus year old Aussie is keeping a young Saints player out of the team.

That Saint's haven't produced an International outside back since Adam was a lad.

That the only back they've produced for years is Paul Wellens, one of the worst fullback ever to play at International level.

But one of the best at club level, where it affects us.

And three ex Wigan academy players in the starting line up last night.

Where's this famous Saints youth policy?

Wellens, Armstrong, Graham, Roby, Clough.
Oh and Cunningham too.

Did Roby start?

Armstrong come on he'd struggle to get game at Pats.

No.

Exactly,
And your back up hooker, signed from Newton storm.

We may lend you a few YOUNG player to help their development.

If you can afford it of course.

There'll be no need for that.

Graham was signed from Barrow wasn't he?

Dave

No, that was Gardner.

This problem should have been sorted close season, we need a 6, Tomkins may get a chance, I hope he succeeds, but it's a lot of pressure on him.

Its too much pressure.

Theres no pressure. Anybody with half a brain cell has to realise than in order to develop he needs to get some minutes on the pitch...

The pressure on Tomkins will be in a year or two when he hopefully will be playing week in week out. Right now he just needs time on the pitch.

I dont disagree re development and time on the pitch, but given the mentality of alot of our fans, if when he comes in and doesnt tear it up straight away, he will cop flack and be boo'd etc like the rest.

The constant links to Edwards and people demanding he is given his go to "save us" is pressure imo and totally ott.

I hope that would not be the case, but like you AJ I am not too sure.

Smith has never won Dally M.

Dally M 'Rookie' 2005.

tes he has he won dally m rookie of the year, which in my books puts him up there, i know he had alot of trouble of the field over in aussie, but you gotta admit his first game was poor this season but the stuff he put on against hull was class i just hope for this lads sake that he keeps it goin and proves a hell of alot of people wrong

I actually saw some nice touches against Wakey with ball in hand but i felt his options were lacking especially in the first half when he attacked down the left. He created time and space but had nobody to use it.

Also thinking about it he attacked on the left at times but defended on the right which for a player with poor defence is unusual.

cracks me up how some people on this topic are now saying, 'Oh Smith played good... I thought he played good against Wakefield aswell' ... Just shows how two faced people are, last week he was , shouldn't be on the pitch. They were calling him rotten on this forum. Same goes for Bailey aswell, calling him and then he goes and scores against Hull, 'Oh Bailey's quality... i've always said it!' ...

Typical Wigan fans.

Are you a troll in disguise or what, because you sound increasingly like one?

The above is an absolute pile of unfiltered sh*te.

Get off your high horse and then get over yourself.

You haven't taken a census of Wigan fans' views. You're responding to a couple of people's personal opinions, and then tarring everyone with the same brush.

Very few, if any, have doubted Smith's ability. They've questioned his motivation, but not his talent. Equally few have decided that Phil Bailey is now the best thing since sliced bread simply because he's (finally) scored a try. Most still expect and hope that his contract won't be renewed.

I've seen most of your posts so far, and personally I think you're in the wrong place. This is a forum for open discussion about Wigan RL. Some people on here have their own agenda, but most are fanatical fans who've earned the right to debate the goods and bads of their club. I don't like negativity for it's own sake, as I've said many times. But if you're going to blow a gasket every time fans make observations on the team that don't chime with your "everything is great at Wigan, because to say otherwise is being disloyal" mentality, then coming on here regularly is not going to do your health any good.

For one, I said 'some people.'

Secondly, stop stalking me you weirdo.

Stalking you?

I'm replying to your post, or are people not allowed to do that unless it's to make a point you agree with?

You really are in the wrong place, kiddo.