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| Quote ="Ashton Warrior"Yeah, I think most realised that. Welcome to the soon to be DW Stadium Gleese.
Why was the Fielden/Morley swap deal picking up pace yesterday
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If IL can manage to get rid of Mathers and Fielden for Gleeson and Morley I will never doubt anything he does again
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| Quote ="DaveO"I was responding to the point you made so why make it if you don't want to discuss it?
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For Heaven's sake.
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| Quote ="8inarow"I thought he had to sign before 5 on friday to play in the barrow game?
Or was that to play in the whole c cup rounds??'"
If he signed before 5pm Friday he was eligible to play v Barrow.
If he signed after 5pm Friday he would have to wait to the semi final (if we get there) before he could play for us in the cup.
Had he played in Wire's cup game he would have been cup tied and could not play for us at all in the cup this season.
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| considering smith apparantly dislikes briers, what chance mathers goes to stand off for wire (a position that he apparantly impressed in for the reserves)
thoughts?
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| Quote ="Cruncher"For Heaven's sake.'"
Look, you were the one suggesting IL was playing his cards close to his chest saying we only had £20K to spend. Either you were making serious point or you were not.
Dave
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| Quote ="pieeater123"considering smith apparantly dislikes briers, what chance mathers goes to stand off for wire (a position that he apparantly impressed in for the reserves)
thoughts?'"
That's up to them, I guess. But Mathers' main problem from what I could see was a wholesale lack of confidence - so much that it had become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Each game it was a case of 'which embarrassing weakness is Mathers going to show today'.
A fresh start somewhere else is the only possible antidote. But the lad does reportedly have a good attitude, which is something Smith will like.
I too wish him all the best.
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| Quote ="Cruncher"That's up to them, I guess. But Mathers' main problem from what I could see was a wholesale lack of confidence - so much that it had become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Each game it was a case of 'which embarrassing weakness is Mathers going to show today'.
A fresh start somewhere else is the only possible antidote. But the lad does reportedly have a good attitude, which is something Smith will like.
I too wish him all the best.'"
Well that is something we can agree on. I also wish him all the best.
Mathers was a gamble worth taking because lets not forget we just lost Ashton to RU and had not got a specialist full back in the senior side.
It didn't work out but I don't think that was due to lack of effort on Mathers part.
Lets hope we are not writing the same thing about Pryce in 12 months time.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Look, you were the one suggesting IL was playing his cards close to his chest saying we only had £20K to spend. Either you were making serious point or you were not.
Dave'"
I'm not going to spend all day debating something that neither of us can possibly prove one way or the other.
You don't know what goes at Wigan re. finances. Neither do I, for that matter. So what's the point worrying about something we can never reach an authoritative conclusion about?
Either way, it doesn't seem to have hampered our recruitment on this occasion - which is surely the main thing.
My point is that, on a day when we've supposedly signed one of the top no. 3s in Britain (and managed to keep our promising own number 3 into the bargain), finding fault in how we've pulled it off - especially when no-one else, not even the usual trolls, can be bothered doing that - is being negative for negativity's sake. And that's my final thought on the matter.
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| Without looking through every post, is it a done deal yet?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Without looking through every post, is it a done deal yet?'"
Yeah, to be announced this afternoon apparently.
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| So on a seriously note, weve had:
BLOODY HELL MORAN - He left
BLOODY HELL MATHERS - Hes going to Warrington
Who will be next to take over the BLOODY HELL title?
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| Quote ="Cruncher"I'm not going to spend all day debating something that neither of us can possibly prove one way or the other.
You don't know what goes at Wigan re. finances. Neither do I, for that matter. So what's the point worrying about something we can never reach an authoritative conclusion about? '"
Surely doing just that is what fuel's half the discussions on this board! Speculation on players salaries, how much we have to spend on the cap, how much we will have to spend if player x leaves etc are the meat of any thread on player signings.
Quote Either way, it doesn't seem to have hampered our recruitment on this occasion - which is surely the main thing.'"
I agree but don't you think it is interesting that a chairman who seemed to shy away from paying a transfer fee has just shelled out £100K? And are you not curious as to how we have fitted such a player under the cap when we only supposedly had £20K to spare? I am given what I have learned about how players salaries count on the cap. In theory that means Gleeson is on £1667 a month plus whatever Mathers was on!
Quote My point is that, on a day when we've supposedly signed one of the top no. 3s in Britain (and managed to keep our promising own number 3 into the bargain), finding fault in how we've pulled it off - especially when no-one else, not even the usual trolls, can be bothered doing that - is being negative for negativity's sake. And that's my final thought on the matter.'"
I wrote this in response to your suggestion IL was playing his cards close to his chest over how much we had to spend on the cap:
Quote If he has said we had £20K on the cap available yet we really had much more, no one will believe him again. So what is the point?
Given we only had supposedly only £20K to spare if we get Gleeson under the cap it is a minor miracle by IL. '"
Now how is that last statement negative?
For the record if we have managed to keep Goulding and sign Gleeson it is great business by IL and it is good to finally see that cash is available for transfers. Happy now?
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Yeah, to be announced this afternoon apparently.'"
*Waits for someone to say how many tiems have we heard that in the last 10 days*
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"So on a seriously note, weve had:
BLOODY HELL MORAN - He left
BLOODY HELL MATHERS - Hes going to Warrington
Who will be next to take over the BLOODY HELL title?'"
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| Quote ="JTB"'"
How many people would love to do that at times?
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| Who was the first person to mention the Gleeson rumour/signing on here?
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| Quote ="JTB"'"
BLOODY HELL Hindmarsh come wigan
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| Quote ="Green Warrior"Who was the first person to mention the Gleeson rumour/signing on here?'"
Alex i think on the Saturday of the Reserves game
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| Quote ="Pemps"viewtopic.php?p=13877599#13877599'"
Does he win anything ?
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"Does he win anything ?'"
Richie Mathers' playing shirt.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Richie Mathers' playing shirt.'"
Mathers starting slot in the team cant do any worse
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| Quote ="Pemps"Richie Mathers' playing shirt.'"
"........Hardly worn, plus playing shorts, well soiled"
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