Well consisting he’d walk into most teams, there is far far better out there, he’s played a game in hand on the guys below, but finds himself below them in metres gained charts.

Graham
Peacock
Morley
S. Burgess
Mason
Dowes
Ferriol

With right on his backside
Guisset
Clough
Cashmere
Sargent

You still sure we couldn’t replace him with ease?

I agree the wage Fielden takes home, he should be the best in the team, but then again the wage Nobby takes home, I'd expect us to be the best SL team. That's sport.

Fielden as made double the tackles Feka as made, nearly triple the marker tackles, so I'd expect him to have given more penalties away, error's are part of the game, as Feka found out yesterday.

As for the PTB speed not being key to scoring, please tell that to the Saints side?

I would rather replace Coley and Fielden before Feka. Who would you bring in who is realistic in getting?

Fielden and Noble can both go for me.

There is no doubt defensively Fielden's statistics are great but he needs to offer a lot more than good defence.

I didn't mean PTB speed isn't key to scoring, I meant that I could count on 1 hand the amount of tries we have scored of a good PTB from Fielden or Coley. That doesn't mean to say we don't score tries off the back of PTB's from Feka though.

End of this year.

Luke Burgess, Nathan Cayless are players I think he could bring in. With Coley going. Prescott on loan next year.

End of next year (2010), end of Feka's and Fielden's contract, there are loads of players off contract to replace him. Morley, S. Burgess, any two prop's are affordable next year, with Fielden and Feka leaving.

we need Nathan Cayless. He is the type of prop we are crying out for

So we will have one good prop then. We'll be stuck with Fielden doing nothing but tackling and Feka for his 10 minute bursts. Coley is average at best.

Sure if you read the bottom of page 3 your'll see why he mention's Cayless



Both L. Burgess and Cayless and Myler are needed. Splash the cash IL you need too.

you change your mind more times than a goldfish, on other post's posted only yesterday you claim we do not need any props, in other posts you produce lists that differ every time you post one, make your bloody mind up ffs.

P.S to the genius's out there, Brian Noble is the man who decides how long players are on the field, and as we all know Nobster loves to sub by the clock, therefore how can anyone blame Feka for the amount of time he is on the field, ISTR he played longer at the end of last season and handled it well, can anyone remember when Nobskin took Feka from the field of play earlier in the season and Feka lost it giving the clown dirty looks and whispering under his breath "You chuffing Weapon"

Burgess is unrealistic aswell. Contracted till 2011, stated that he wants to stay at Bradford to at least the end of this contract.

Didn't see the Celtic game but we need Feka, at least he breaks the line regularly. A very handy player to bring on for three short stints to pick up the pace and get us on the front foot in attack. Having said that he needs to get a little more agile as he doesn't seem to slide quick enough in defence, leaving us wide open for a nifty hooker/halfback to exploit.

From what I read the guy's got big ambitions to play in the NRL as well.

Sorry mate but he is the last person we need, Unfortunatly Nathan is well past his sell by date and has very little impact in the NRL these days, Keith Galloway from Wests would be an ideal target as a tough working prop but he has another year to run on his contract, as for an enforcer theres none around, so it looks like we have to be patient on the prop front.

He's five years past his best, perfect signing for Wigan

Yeah, he has mentioned that. Makes him more unrealistic for you.

Feka is a talent. Just altogether part of a back pack lead by a manager who isn't able to motivate.

He's job is to come on and smash up the line in 20min spells, to gain as many yards possible. There's no one out there, (maybe Moi Moi) who does it quite like Feka.

He's size adds to his ability to smash the line, if he was supported correctly we'd have more opportunities as he nearly always breaks the line.

He is only there to do 20min spells. Not be an enforcer workhouse or any other kind of prop. He's good at what his game is.

I still contend he would be better if he was fitter. Less bulk but more speed would mean he could still hit the line with the same momentum but could probably regain his feet quicker and contribute more in defence for longer periods too.

It's just an opinion, of course. I accept we have more pressing matters at hand!

not necessarily less bulk but less fat

Agreed.

Makes sense.

I think perhaps the up side of Feka losing some weight would be seen more in his defensive work than his blockbusting drives.

A little more agility and stamina would help a lot in the defensive line IMO.

Quote ="FearTheVee"I think perhaps the up side of Feka losing some weight would be seen more in his defensive work than his blockbusting drives. A little more agility and stamina would help a lot in the defensive line IMO.'" Let’s put this defensive frailty nonsense to bed once and for all; [urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1135&hs2=2009&hp2=1950[/url He seems to compare well against his main impact prop rival in Maurie imo and I know which one I’d take out of the two and it isn’t the one with a girls name. 17 missed tackles this season doesn’t even compare when you look at the meters he’s made. Which lets face it is what he’s there to do! Or should we compare him against Fielden who has made less carries this season twice as many tackles but yet twice as many miss tackles as well?? Does this mean Fielden is also a defensive liability??? www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Feka is doing fine and I can’t believe some of the fools are knocking him or calling for us to get shut.

Quote ="FearTheVee"I think perhaps the up side of Feka losing some weight would be seen more in his defensive work than his blockbusting drives. A little more agility and stamina would help a lot in the defensive line IMO.'" Let’s put this defensive frailty nonsense to bed once and for all; [urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1135&hs2=2009&hp2=1950[/url He seems to compare well against his main impact prop rival in Maurie imo and I know which one I’d take out of the two and it isn’t the one with a girls name. 17 missed tackles this season doesn’t even compare when you look at the meters he’s made. Which lets face it is what he’s there to do! Or should we compare him against Fielden who has made less carries this season twice as many tackles but yet twice as many miss tackles as well?? Does this mean Fielden is also a defensive liability??? www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Feka is doing fine and I can’t believe some of the fools are knocking him or calling for us to get shut.

he as been wigan's best forward! for about 2 years although he does have lapses in concentration and still offloads the ball in silly positions EVERY game but overall i would keep him

Quote ="thepriestman85"Let’s put this defensive frailty nonsense to bed once and for all; [urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1135&hs2=2009&hp2=1950[/url He seems to compare well against his main impact prop rival in Maurie imo and I know which one I’d take out of the two and it isn’t the one with a girls name. 17 missed tackles this season doesn’t even compare when you look at the meters he’s made. Which lets face it is what he’s there to do! Or should we compare him against Fielden who has made less carries this season twice as many tackles but yet twice as many miss tackles as well?? Does this mean Fielden is also a defensive liability??? www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Feka is doing fine and I can’t believe some of the fools are knocking him or calling for us to get shut.'" It's not necessarily the tackles he misses though, it's the tackles he doesn't even attempt to make because he's walking back to the defensive line after making a run.

Quote ="thepriestman85"Let’s put this defensive frailty nonsense to bed once and for all; [urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1135&hs2=2009&hp2=1950[/url He seems to compare well against his main impact prop rival in Maurie imo and I know which one I’d take out of the two and it isn’t the one with a girls name. 17 missed tackles this season doesn’t even compare when you look at the meters he’s made. Which lets face it is what he’s there to do! Or should we compare him against Fielden who has made less carries this season twice as many tackles but yet twice as many miss tackles as well?? Does this mean Fielden is also a defensive liability??? www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Feka is doing fine and I can’t believe some of the fools are knocking him or calling for us to get shut.'" It's not necessarily the tackles he misses though, it's the tackles he doesn't even attempt to make because he's walking back to the defensive line after making a run.

Quote ="thepriestman85"Let’s put this defensive frailty nonsense to bed once and for all; [urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1135&hs2=2009&hp2=1950[/url He seems to compare well against his main impact prop rival in Maurie imo and I know which one I’d take out of the two and it isn’t the one with a girls name. 17 missed tackles this season doesn’t even compare when you look at the meters he’s made. Which lets face it is what he’s there to do! Or should we compare him against Fielden who has made less carries this season twice as many tackles but yet twice as many miss tackles as well?? Does this mean Fielden is also a defensive liability??? www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Feka is doing fine and I can’t believe some of the fools are knocking him or calling for us to get shut.'" Quite why you're comparing a highly paid overseas star to a bloke who hadn't played RL until a few years ago and will be on comparative peanuts is beyond me. And comparing him to Fielden is like comparing him to me.

Quote ="thepriestman85"Let’s put this defensive frailty nonsense to bed once and for all; [urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?season=2009&stat=missed_tackles&hs1=2009&hp1=1135&hs2=2009&hp2=1950[/url He seems to compare well against his main impact prop rival in Maurie imo and I know which one I’d take out of the two and it isn’t the one with a girls name. 17 missed tackles this season doesn’t even compare when you look at the meters he’s made. Which lets face it is what he’s there to do! Or should we compare him against Fielden who has made less carries this season twice as many tackles but yet twice as many miss tackles as well?? Does this mean Fielden is also a defensive liability??? www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Feka is doing fine and I can’t believe some of the fools are knocking him or calling for us to get shut.'" Quite why you're comparing a highly paid overseas star to a bloke who hadn't played RL until a few years ago and will be on comparative peanuts is beyond me. And comparing him to Fielden is like comparing him to me.

He has been our main weapon for the last 2 years without him we would have been in a much worse position. He is prone to the defensive lapse but in my opinion it is worth the failings from what he adds to the team.

What frustrates me is when he does make a half break more often than not he has to turn to offload losing much of the momentum why we do not have either a hooker or a half on his shoulder when he gets his body through the line.

Look at the last play of the Celtic game. Feka gets through the line hands free looking for someone on his shoulder McIllorum is nowhere to be seen neither is any support.

The lack of movement off the ball and support/work for each other is quite frankly shocking.

End of the day Maurie went to the WC this summer as England’s impact prop and currently plays the same role as Feka but in arguably the top team in SL so who else am I going to compare him against? The 80min ginger freak or maybe Peacock or is it you can’t handle the fact that Feka walks all over Maurie in every department so you make excuses like he’s not been playing that long to make yourself feel better?



The Fielden comparison wasn’t for your benefit believe it or not but it showed that Feka isn’t the defensive liability some on here say he is.

Feka has made half as many tackles as Fielden and Half as many missed tackles as well so if Feka is a defensive liability in the Wigan side then so is Fielden.

So if I can’t compare Feka to Maurie or another prop who plays in the same team as him who can I btw?