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| Quote ="Boris"What is this going to prove? Send the lad to re-hab and fight the ban. Claim mitagating circumstances-not sure what these are but he can work on these with his lawyer. He did not do anything wrong imo, so we should fight it.'"
You cannot be serious??
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| Quote ="AJ"You cannot be serious??'"
Its wimbledon fortnight! ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Boris"Sure there are. Claim he was drunk, abused as child etc etc.
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See, I told you there weren't any.
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| Quote ="AJ"You cannot be serious??'"
Yes I am. You have to stick by your guys. All he did was took a sniff of some white powder. Really not all that serious in the grand scheme of things. If every city worker was fired for the same offensive there would be about 205 of the workforce left.
Send him re-hab, give him a smack around the face, and bring him back when he has served his ban (which we should fight to get as small as possible).
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"See, I told you there weren't any.'"
We can leave that to the lawyers to sort out.
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| Quote ="Boris"We can leave that to the lawyers to sort out.'"
I guess so, but if they are going to try the "He was drunk, abused as a child" defence, I want to be there as it will be hilarious.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"I guess so, but if they are going to try the "He was drunk, abused as a child" defence, I want to be there as it will be hilarious.'"
I concur. We shouldn't allow the stupid rules to get in our way. Plenty of people who have very capable careers dabble in the white stuff.
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| Quote ="Boris"Yes I am. You have to stick by your guys. All he did was took a sniff of some white powder. Really not all that serious in the grand scheme of things. If every city worker was fired for the same offensive there would be about 205 of the workforce left.
Send him re-hab, give him a smack around the face, and bring him back when he has served his ban (which we should fight to get as small as possible).'"
Stunning!!
The only way he deserves another chance with Wigan is to earn it by getting off the stuff, i do not go for this councilling bull, and get out and do some work with young athletes warning them of the risks, he needs to work for his chance not be molly coddled. These players get it handed to them on a plate at Wigan i have never known a system like it and they think they are untouchable.
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| Quote ="Boris"Yes I am. You have to stick by your guys. All he did was took a sniff of some white powder. Really not all that serious in the grand scheme of things. If every city worker was fired for the same offensive there would be about 205 of the workforce left.
Send him re-hab, give him a smack around the face, and bring him back when he has served his ban (which we should fight to get as small as possible).'" Sorry mate, I respect your point of view...but its mental!
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| Quote ="Boris"Yes I am. You have to stick by your guys. All he did was took a sniff of some white powder. Really not all that serious in the grand scheme of things. If every city worker was fired for the same offensive there would be about 205 of the workforce left.
Send him re-hab, give him a smack around the face, and bring him back when he has served his ban (which we should fight to get as small as possible).'"
Don't talk sense
If we stick by someone for beating someone up then surely we should stick by someone for sniffing a bit of white powder
If he did leave us he would come back in 2 years and you can guarentee he would come round to bite us in the backside
IMO everyone deserves a second chance so Hock should get his and I think we should support the lad just to keep him going because this could send him over the edge and no-one deserves that
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| Quote ="jonh"Stunning!!
The only way he deserves another chance with Wigan is to earn it by getting off the stuff, i do not go for this councilling bull, and get out and do some work with young athletes warning them of the risks, he needs to work for his chance not be molly coddled. These players get it handed to them on a plate at Wigan i have never known a system like it and they think they are untouchable.'"
JonH please read what I said. I said: 'Send him re-hab, give him a smack around the face, and bring him back when he has served his ban (which we should fight to get as small as possible).'
Ergo he will be given a punishment (that was the smack in the face part).
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| Quote ="Boris"JonH please read what I said. I said: 'Send him re-hab, give him a smack around the face, and bring him back when he has served his ban (which we should fight to get as small as possible).'
Ergo he will be given a punishment (that was the smack in the face part).'"
The fact you seem to think that it is such a trivial matter that we can fight i think highlights you are not sure what you are talking about. We are not talking about taking on the RFL we are talking about Sport England and World doping bodies, we fight them we go a good way to ruining the rep of the sport and lose any support and external funding.
Sorry mate but you are way off the mark on this one.
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| Quote ="jonh"Stunning!!
The only way he deserves another chance with Wigan is to earn it by getting off the stuff, i do not go for this councilling bull, and get out and do some work with young athletes warning them of the risks, he needs to work for his chance not be molly coddled. These players get it handed to them on a plate at Wigan i have never known a system like it and they think they are untouchable.'"
I can't believe someone has actually taken the time to write that pile of crap.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"I can't believe someone has actually taken the time to write that pile of crap.'"
As usual please elaborate.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I'm starting to worry about your chairman, some of his actions and on other occasions lack of them make me wonder if he is the right man.'"
Our chairman's actions? As long as he doesn't do a lap of the Willows club in his undercrackers I think his actions are fine
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| Quote ="jonh"As usual please elaborate.'"
You don't believe in all that counselling crap? Just give him a smack around the head and send him to do some community work.
Do you actually know anyone who has had a serious issue with drugs?
Your ignorance does you no credit.
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| I'm starting to worry about your chairman, some of his actions and on other occasions lack of them make me wonder if he is the right man.
Me too mate, but at the moment the club is in that much of a mess don't know what will go wrong next!!
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"You don't believe in all that counselling crap? Just give him a smack around the head and send him to do some community work.
Do you actually know anyone who has had a serious issue with drugs?
Your ignorance does you no credit.'"
I know a few and to be honest if he had a major problem he would not be able to train and play. Seems to me, like all the rest of the lads that are on the stuff in the game they take it socially. They are not coke reliant they could not do what they did if they were.
They have a dabble when they are out with there mates they are not waking up and banging the stuff down there faces from waking to sleep.
My ignorance does me no credit, sadly Jack your posting history and agenda 99% of the time does you no credit.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Our chairman's actions? As long as he doesn't do a lap of the Willows club in his undercrackers I think his actions are fine'"
I'll give you that was not our leaders greatest moment, but can you honestly say that IL has been great for your club?
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I'll give you that was not our leaders greatest moment, but can you honestly say that IL has been great for your club?'"
He has made some huge errors, hopefully this week sees an end to the errors and acts as a real wake up call.
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| Quote ="jonh"The fact you seem to think that it is such a trivial matter that we can fight i think highlights you are not sure what you are talking about. We are not talking about taking on the RFL we are talking about Sport England and World doping bodies, we fight them we go a good way to ruining the rep of the sport and lose any support and external funding.
Sorry mate but you are way off the mark on this one.'"
Externl funding? Are Sky suddenly going to cancel their Television coverage? As for 'support' from external avenues-RL does not get any. The 'maintstream' media could not give a about RL.
Sport England allowed athletes to miss 3 drugs tests and still run in the Olympics.
Taking cocaine, whilst not desirbale, imo is a trivial matter. All he needs is a good slap and told to get off the stuff so he can perform better on the pitch.
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| Quote ="jonh"I know a few and to be honest if he had a major problem he would not be able to train and play. Seems to me, like all the rest of the lads that are on the stuff in the game they take it socially. They are not coke reliant they could not do what they did if they were.
They have a dabble when they are out with there mates they are not waking up and banging the stuff down there faces from waking to sleep.
My ignorance does me no credit, sadly Jack your posting history and agenda 99% of the time does you no credit.'"
What is the issue then exactly? Sure he broke the law, so let the police take the matter up if they are so bothered.
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| Quote ="Boris"Externl funding? Are Sky suddenly going to cancel their Television coverage? As for 'support' from external avenues-RL does not get any. The 'maintstream' media could not give a poop about RL.
Sport England allowed athletes to miss 3 drugs tests and still run in the Olympics.
Taking cocaine, whilst not desirbale, imo is a trivial matter. All he needs is a good slap and told to get off the stuff so he can perform better on the pitch.'"
Indeed, lets just do this. Lets teach the younger generation that you can put a load of $hit up your nose and be let off when caught.
Can you image the uproar from the anti drugs charities? Can you image the damage that would do to our game? But no, just as long as wigan are ok, who cares eh?
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| Quote ="Happy Tom"Indeed, lets just do this. Lets teach the younger generation that you can put a load of $hit up your nose and be let off when caught.
Can you image the uproar from the anti drugs charities? Can you image the damage that would do to our game? But no, just as long as wigan are ok, who cares eh?'"
I don't care about anything other than Wigan winning.
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| Quote ="Happy Tom"Indeed, lets just do this. Lets teach the younger generation that you can put a load of $hit up your nose and be let off when caught.
Can you image the uproar from the anti drugs charities? Can you image the damage that would do to our game? But no, just as long as wigan are ok, who cares eh?'"
I have to agree.
If I was the boss of a company and one of my employees was caught taking drugs or doing anything criminal, he/she'd be out the door like a shot. Simply for the image of the company, even more so if the company was an international company permenantly in the limelight.
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