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| Quote ="Catalancs"Anyone else heard we've been speaking to Denis Betts?'"
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Anyone else heard we've been speaking to Denis Betts?'"
Not in Hocks class, as a replacement for Bailey perhaps.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Anyone else heard we've been speaking to Denis Betts?'"
If he was to be part of the coaching staff again then yes. But probably not as keen if hes going to be the head coach again
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| I really hope we don't sign Griffin.
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| I would be more than happy with Betts coming back as part of the backroom staff,
But as head coach no thank you
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| Quote ="cadoo"I really hope we don't sign Griffin.
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Me too, he's crap. Sooner stick with Coley.
I could see Coley getting another year then we replace Fielden and Coley at the end of next season bring in LMS (not quite sure who he is ) and one Aussie or Kiwi
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"I would be more than happy with Betts coming back as part of the backroom staff,
But as head coach no thank you'"
Agreed, as assistant fair play, as the head coach no thanks, big changes at Gloucester regards the coaching so he may very well be available, although as i understand it he is very well thought of as a coach there.
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| Quote ="jonh"Agreed, as assistant fair play, as the head coach no thanks, big changes at Gloucester regards the coaching so he may very well be available, although as i understand it he is very well thought of as a coach there.'"
Isn't that to do with financail problems?
I've read that they have quite a few coaches/backroom staff on daft wages, Betts being one.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Isn't that to do with financail problems?
I've read that they have quite a few coaches/backroom staff on daft wages, Betts being one.'"
Dean Ryan has been sacked, Brian Redpath has taken charge so its a promotion from within, which will probably not harm Betts like a total new headcoach coming to the club might.
Financially Gloucester are fine, even if the media says otherwise they are a very rich club with many major backers.
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| Quote ="jonh"Dean Ryan has been sacked, Brian Redpath has taken charge so its a promotion from within, which will probably not harm Betts like a total new headcoach coming to the club might.
Financially Gloucester are fine, even if the media says otherwise they are a very rich club with many major backers.'"
Aye, and getting rid of Ryan is long overdue and will only make them stronger.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Our last chairman paid too much for those players though and got us in trouble year after year.
I always said when Lenagan took over that we may have to see a couple of years worth of bargain bin signings if we wanted to stop players and their agents taking us for a ride after that. We've been seen for a long while now as a meal ticket for players and that had to stop, i presume that now were not viewed as being that meal ticket anymore, especially given your last comment.
Hopefully from now on though he'll gradually start to raise the bar in terms of quality and salaries of the players he brings in, within reason, so that we can start getting a better of quality of player in again but without paying over the odds for them.
I think the Gleeson signing was the first sign that his transfer policy may be on the change.'"
A lot of truth in this.
Look at it this way, under IL we have no salary CAP issues which lead to league points being deducted.
If IL goes to Aus looking at a player (i.e. Webb) then decides he isn't good enough, would you still want him to sign him just to show he is a) willing to splash the cash and b) to please fans?
No way, if Webb turns out to be a poor signing, IL will kick himself as he initially knew he isn't the right signing. It would then only be a matter of time before the fans (namely this place) would be on IL's back and Webbs.
If there's no one worth signing, don't sign anyone, wait, keep communications open and wait until someone who is worth the fee to become available then make the signing.
Unless we'll end up with 'lesser' players contracted to the club, the won't progress.
If IL doesn't make a single signing this summer, its because no one worth signing is available.
Gleeson is a top centre (pity our halves can't create anything for him) he's a great signing. Let this be an example of where we're going.
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| Griffin Jesus wept, who picked him????? IL should be ashamed if that one is true.
We need 2 world class players, a prop and a half, if nobody fits the bill, as has been said, give Coley another year and persist we what we have. We could always look to give Phelps a go at 6 if we wanted to shake things up.
Signing players like Griffin will cement us in the bottom half of the table.
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| Quote ="jonh"Agreed, as assistant fair play, as the head coach no thanks.'"
Would agree with that.
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| Quote ="AJ"Griffin
Jesus wept, who picked him????? IL should be ashamed if that one is true.
We need 2 world class players, a prop and a half, if nobody fits the bill, as has been said, give Coley another year and persist we what we have. We could always look to give Phelps a go at 6 if we wanted to shake things up.
Signing players like Griffin will cement us in the bottom half of the table.'"
Really hope this rumours just somebody making bad comedy
But if theres something in it i'm more worried about this club than ever before. If Griffin is the standard were operating at now then its time to pack it in.
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| Would be happy with Betts as number 2, he remembers the glory days and if we want to get back the attitude and mental strength around the place we during are period of success than we need someone who was there and experienced it.
As for griffin, yeah a solid worker but we already have a enough of those, under different circumstances then maybe but not now, we should be doing are best to get N Cayless, his ability on the field and the effect he'll have with are junior players shouldn't be overlooked.
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| Griffin? is that 'rumour' back again?
if we're going to sign anyone from a smaller club it should be Owen or Shenton from Cas
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| Griffin? Is that a joke? It sure sounds like one.
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| Quote ="RB"Griffin? Is that a joke? It sure sounds like one.'"
Its one of them jokes you wanna cry at not laugh dont you think
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| Quote ="RB"www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_union/2498816/Super-Gav.html
Worth a punt?'"
I think so.
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| For so many reasons it's a definite yes and if it is true the RL should be funding part of it as well but the three stand out reasons are;
-Class player
-Top level RU player
-Celebrity (the column inches for RL would be amazing)
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| Quote ="RB"www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_union/2498816/Super-Gav.html
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work wont let me read it but i assume henson?
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| Would he work at Stand Off or would he have to play centre though?
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Gavin Hensen.'"
couldnt do with his mrs being half time 'entertainment'
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