What do you expect a captain of a team to say numb nuts 'we don't expect to win'

Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"Funny that isnt it you quote 'stats' people post them proving hes makes much less mistakes than pretty much every other prop then its not about that what a tool you are Few more.. Tackle busts - no 9 on the top 25 (highest prop in the list) superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... 10&hp2=153 '" Nice try but how many people posted stats before i made the post you've quoted? You might want to go back to the start and read my posts properly before quoting tackle busts or any other stat. I said his ball retention stats must be some of the worst in SL. Nowhere did i say his tackling, busts or anything else weren't top drawer and i'm pretty sure on this very same thread i talked about him playing for England. Off you trot.

Quote ="MidlandsWarrior2"Funny that isnt it you quote 'stats' people post them proving hes makes much less mistakes than pretty much every other prop then its not about that what a tool you are Few more.. Tackle busts - no 9 on the top 25 (highest prop in the list) superleague.co.uk/statistics_pla ... 10&hp2=153 '" Nice try but how many people posted stats before i made the post you've quoted? You might want to go back to the start and read my posts properly before quoting tackle busts or any other stat. I said his ball retention stats must be some of the worst in SL. Nowhere did i say his tackling, busts or anything else weren't top drawer and i'm pretty sure on this very same thread i talked about him playing for England. Off you trot.

Well done but absolutely pointless unless you get the full list of forwards to compare.

Let's put it this way:


I didn't list anyone with less than 18 errors, so you can probably assume that's a fairly accurate list and rest assured there are not only 5, but at least 20 forwards with a higher error count than Fielden. I'm sure if we went to averages there would be some with a higher error rate bearing in mind Fielden has barely missed any games this year.

Care to twist your criteria any more to prove Fielden is just terrible?

Who said he was terrible?

OK then, if i must, later tonight i'll spend "5 minutes" like you did and i'll list as many forwards with less than 18 errors as you have done for those with more than 18. By your logic i'll then be proved right won't i?

Joe, you remind me of an X-Factor auditionee. Who clearly have no friends to adsvise them that if they open their mouths they are just going to make themselves look like the idiots they are

is this thread ment to be about mick vella or fielden???? why have a dig at fielden anyway, hes been awsome this year, i think hes had his best season in a wigan shirt this year!!!

here's 30 for you Cronus and i've barely scratched the surface.

korkidas 13
dale ferguson 6
nick scruton 5
andy lynch 15
glenn hall 10
jamie langley 12
craig huby 12
mitchell sargent 10
david ferriol 16
jerome guisset 12
ryan o'hara 8
lincoln withers 17
mark bryant 9
rocky trimarchi 13
karl temata 4
mcarthy scarsbrook 16
luke williamson 5
rob purdham 8
eorl crabtree 7
eith mason 4
david fa'alogo 14
ewen dowes 4
mark o'meley 12
lee radford 9
craig fitzgibbon 12
danny washbrook 14
mick vella 10
kylie leuluai 10
ryan bailey 10
carl ablett 12

You watch X-Factor?

and how many of these have played week in week out??

I knew that was coming.
Go and have a look and maybe get us a few more names to compare while you're there.

But it's more than 18 of them that have played all season so by Cronus' flawed logic i'm now proved right (like most of you already knew anyway).

I've got an idea for you!

Why don't you go and work out errors per Game or mins played and then see were Fielden comes in the list?

Why don't you stop being so precious and go read my earlier posts where i mentioned Fielden for England?

You said




You also said he was vastly over-rated, Yet you also say you mentioned him for England?
Which is it?

He's made 18 errors in 25 games (Play offs not inc) and plays 55-60 mins every week which is good enough for me!

I have another idea

Why don't you go away and until you get some accurate facts or decent arguments and not contradict yourself at every turn, don't bother coming back.

keith mason 13 apperences
dale ferguson 16 apps
nick scruton 21
jamie langley 19
david ferriol 19
jerome guisset 22
rocky trimarchi 22
karl temata 11
luke williamson 18
rob purdom 15
david fa'alogo 14
mark o'meley 20
craig fitzgibbon 20
danny washbrook 19
kylie leuluai 21
ryan "im so hard" bailey 22
carl abblet 16

big stu 25!!!!

so that selection of players go out your window as they have made less apperences this season.....jog on

And I'll have a small wager that 90% have had Far less game time!

Edited for accuracy .

well done for proving Cronus' logic to be flawed just like i said.
until someone with far too much time on their hands gets a definitive list of stats no one will know for sure.

all this from me saying he had butter fingers

wrong again, ive counted 17 out of the 30 who havent played all season, and about 5 or 6 in the remaining 13 have played 1 game less which i didnt bother including, so truth be told only 6 of thoses players have made the same apperences as stu!!!!!!!!!

i no,, its all abit of banter at the end of the day, im not taking it to seriousley, getting all these facts just passes time for me whilst the mrs watches her crappy programs

Don't throw them at me as though it was my idea - YOU brought up the stats.

You actually challenged someone to post 5 forwards with more errors.

There are a lot more than 5. Further, I doubt many (if any) have made more appearances than Fielden and will therefore have an ever higher error rate as well as more actual errors. The logic is sound, so that's another of your arguments out the window.

You are indisputably wrong.

Just another reminder of what I was replying to, as you conveniently ignored it last time:

A true man can admit defeat. I therefore await more excuses from you.

Feilden no where near as consistent as peacock, therefore not in same overall class, at one time yes now no sorry.

Except this season in SL that's not the case, either in performances, or in stats evaluation. Plus JP's only managed to make 17 appearances, staying injury free actually does matter.

Except that he is as consistent, more so in fact as Fielden has played the whole season to a top standard.

It is strange, fans of others teams are trying to tell us how bad his hands are, and how he is not as good/consistent as other players. yet looking at our player of the season (id say its a pretty good system, all the fans giving the top 3 players from each game, with the top 5 each game getting points) and Fielden is top of that this season. so in theory he has been our most consistent player this season, and we have finished top of the table. surely that means he is a pretty decent player.