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| In peace from a Wire fan. Just to say what a pleasant surprise to read a thread with considered comments about the game, rather than the usual moronic name calling that goes on.
I have no idea what the result is going to be, and all the previous comments have some relevance.
Let us hope it is a good game, and the better team on the day wins - hoping it is Wire of course.
As long as whoever gets to Wembley can beat Saints, presuming they get there!
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"If you defend like last friday, you'll walk it'"
Exactly. Defend like we have the last couple of weeks and we should win and we should win quite convincingly.
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| Im surprised noone else has mentioned it, but apart from the obvious Carvell and Morley drives, I think we need to keep an eye on Briers and Jon Clarke.
Briers has always been an influential player for them, so we cant let him get on top of Sam and Tommy.
Jon Clarke has hit abit of form of late, finding the tryline a few times aswel, so hopefully Riddell can nullify that threat.
Weaknesses? Mathers has to be targeted. In the air and on the floor. We saw last week he still isnt safe with bouncing balls - lets test him out. As Sam and Phelps are usually there abouts when a kick is put through.
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| Quote ="Ashton Warrior"Im surprised noone else has mentioned it, but apart from the obvious Carvell and Morley drives, I think we need to keep an eye on Briers and Jon Clarke.
Briers has always been an influential player for them, so we cant let him get on top of Sam and Tommy.
Jon Clarke has hit abit of form of late, finding the tryline a few times aswel, so hopefully Riddell can nullify that threat.
Weaknesses? Mathers has to be targeted. In the air and on the floor. We saw last week he still isnt safe with bouncing balls - lets test him out. As Sam and Phelps are usually there abouts when a kick is put through.'"
Id keep an eye on Mona's if he plays hooker also King is looking very strong and Bridge he has great footwork and is starting to use he stepside again.
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| Quote ="bazdev"If the kicking game is good and we can keep the pressure on Mathers then we will win comfortably.
Wire are a decent side with ball in hand, but defensively they are very poor. How many times this season have they conceded 30 or more points?'"
how many? 6 but not many recently
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| Quote ="GazzaPieman"Totally agree that up front is key. However Coley and Prescott have really impressed of late, and IMO are our best 2 props. I think the crunch will come when Feka and Fielden come on. Feka is great going forward but monaghan may target him from the dummy half position. Fielden really needs to put a big game in. Hopefully Morley will clock him one early and he will get riled up and really shine(i remember him having a stormer against leeds once after tangling with Peacock). His good games are few and far between , lets home Saturday is one!
I have no concerns over the backs. I think we have a real edge in pace and ability and if Mathers sticks to the script he will have a shocker!'"
how many times have I heard that? - Id settle for a solid game without the knock ons and without the niggle, giving away the penalties
lets all get on Mathers back as we do with Dodgy Hodgie !
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| What we need to do is hold carvell and morley up and let sam knee chop the gits
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| Quote ="king warrior"What we need to do is hold carvell and morley up and let sam knee chop the gits'"
Fantastic idea that, demonstrates to perfection what a wealth of knowledge you have about the game, also shows alot of maturity and intelligence. Well Done.
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| Pffffff only caught one
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| Our halfbacks have to step up for me. Leuluai needs to show a little more composure than last friday and both HBs need excellent kicking games, turn Mathers, smash him, knock his confidence and pin Wire back into their own 20.
Can't wait.
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| Quote ="king warrior"Pffffff only caught one'"
I'm relieved that it's the highlight of your day, I just assumed it was you being normal as it fell in line with your usual posting style of pointless rubbish. Please accepy my deepest apologies.
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| Quote ="Darkheart"I'm relieved that it's the highlight of your day, I just assumed it was you being normal as it fell in line with your usual posting style of pointless rubbish. Please accepy my deepest apologies.'" OOOOOOHHHHHH WAAAAAAAAAANNNNNKKKKKYYYYY WAAAAAAAANNNNNNNKKKKKYYYY
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| Quote ="king warrior"OOOOOOHHHHHH WAAAAAAAAAANNNNNKKKKKYYYYY WAAAAAAAANNNNNNNKKKKKYYYY'"
Very creative
A+ for effort.
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| Quote ="Darkheart"Very creative
A+ for effort.'" Want a bet on the game then?
All winnings go to charity
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| Quote ="king warrior"OOOOOOHHHHHH WAAAAAAAAAANNNNNKKKKKYYYYY WAAAAAAAANNNNNNNKKKKKYYYY'"
Just so you know, this made me chuckle
A lot of banter on here today but some people obviously have got up and logged on without their sense of humour intact today.
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| Quote ="king warrior"Want a bet on the game then?
All winnings go to charity'"
Not needed as I believe we will lose as Wigan are currently the better side.
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| For me it's quite simple what we need to do to win the game and thats to keep Morley and Carvell as quiet as is possible which will limit what the likes of Briers and Monaghan can do to us.
If we keep them in check i'm confident we can win the game but that won't be an easy task.
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| Quote ="MK Warrior"Just so you know, this made me chuckle
A lot of banter on here today but some people obviously have got up and logged on without their sense of humour intact today.'" Spot on mate
By far ours and there biggest game of the season and it's like a mourge on here come on dire fans we need some banter or wolfette lift my ban on there for a few hours
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| I have read this page from bottom up, the ohhhhh wannnn etc made me chuckle, but by the time I got to the bit about Sam knee chopping Carvell and Morley I was laughing my head off.
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| Quote ="king warrior"Spot on mate
By far ours and there biggest game of the season and it's like a mourge on here come on dire fans we need some banter or wolfette lift my ban on there for a few hours
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The difference is though that you don't produce banter, it's just rubbish and vile comments. If you want to follow examples of banter then look at ABP' or NickyKiss as just two examples, they come on our board from time to time and have a good crack and are treated in a warm and friendly manner.
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| Quote ="odemwingie"Obviously we need to score more points than the wire, but who needs to step up and have a big game? Who needs to lead from the front? Who needs to put in a MOTM performance for us to win? Where do we need to improve?
IMO there is an obvious choice, the wire pack is pretty amazing so all our props need to be on their game, I think now would be a great time for Fielden to have a great game.
Also, this is Sam Tomkins chance to put his foot down and claim the spot as the best young player around. I hope he takes the pressure well and has a stormer.
Finally, what should we do in terms of tactics? I don't think last time we played them, peppering their line early on really helped and with it being such a big game I would like us to settle in with a good kick and chase and take a try as a bonus rather then panic trying to score early points on their line. We need to work hard make their props work overtime to make sure they are tired come the end of the game. With us playing 5 props I think its a no brainer that we should keep all of them fresh with lots of interchange between them and use Hanson as a battering ram to give them a rest. Our backs can carry on their current form IMO and that includes Roberts.
Ideas everyone?'"
We did pepper their line but not with any pre-planned moves.
We need dummy runners and players being put through holes.
Why don't we even have a move involving Feka near the line?
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| Quote ="Salty"Why don't we even have a move involving Feka near the line?'"
Sometimes I find it fustrating that we do not use Feka enough when close to the line.
Not only would he have a chance of actually getting over the whitewash, he also attracts more than a couple of defenders which then spreads the defence and creates space away from the ruck. Players such as Harrison Hansen and Joel Tomkins thrive off hitting gaps through scrambled defences.
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| Quote ="ABP'"Sometimes I find it fustrating that we do not use Feka enough when close to the line.
Not only would he have a chance of actually getting over the whitewash, he also attracts more than a couple of defenders which then spreads the defence and creates space away from the ruck. Players such as Harrison Hansen and Joel Tomkins thrive off hitting gaps through scrambled defences.'"
Been saying this for years. Do not understand the mentality of a coach who has a living battering-ram in his pack, but never uses him that way when close to the line. Surely it'd be worth giving him one drive for every set of six we have (and usually waste) in the green zone?
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| Quote ="ABP'"Sometimes I find it fustrating that we do not use Feka enough when close to the line.
Not only would he have a chance of actually getting over the whitewash, he also attracts more than a couple of defenders which then spreads the defence and creates space away from the ruck. Players such as Harrison Hansen and Joel Tomkins thrive off hitting gaps through scrambled defences.'"
Paul Anderson used to do it quite a bit and was succesful. Hansen is great at going through gaps, he scored a brilliant try in the comeback at the bulls in 07.
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| Don't get drawn into a forward battle, Warrington like to do that and thats when Wigan have been sucked into poor rugby in the past. Just attack like we did against Leeds (2nd half) and defend like we did at Saints.
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