Quote ="hrincewhite"This is my first post so be gentle. Noble summoned to a meeting with Lennigan in Milton Keynes. Players given 2 days off (why) Celtic game was hardle taxing. Shaun Wane to step up to coach with assistance from Adriam Lam. Noble it is said due to return to assist at Bradford. April 14th was a crucial date ????'" viewtopic.php?t=406813 posted last week

Quote ="hrincewhite"This is my first post so be gentle. Noble summoned to a meeting with Lennigan in Milton Keynes. Players given 2 days off (why) Celtic game was hardle taxing. Shaun Wane to step up to coach with assistance from Adriam Lam. Noble it is said due to return to assist at Bradford. April 14th was a crucial date ????'" viewtopic.php?t=406813 posted last week

Agreed. Rover and out.

...a likely tail!

It's like Groundhog Day.

i thought sleeping dogs were allowed to lie ?

You cant run a club like that.

He is either backed or he isn't. You cant make the decision based on a couple of games which are full of variables and uncontrollables.

I'm stuck in a link loop

Some of the people involved at the club should stick to doing what they do best, rather than making up malicious rumours that gullible fans will post on messageboards...

this not locked/deleted yet only to return?

As I said in the deleted thread, I've never posted anything like this before. My source at the club has been there for a few years now and I've never bothered asking them for insider knowledge before as I didn't want to be a pain.

[iThis information was freely volunteered so I have absolutely no reason to doubt it.[/i

To reiterate:
He has been told he has to win 2 of the next 3 games to keep his job.
Adrian Lam and Shaun Wayne serious contenders to take over.
The players don't respect him and call him head behind his back.

Serious question, and I'm not knocking your info, but are the players 12 years old?

Think they must be i think his man is one of the backroom staff the Noble has upset and just wants to cause a bit of upset for him. Player i have spoken to dont call him that some do call him a few names but who can say the have never called there boss a few names behind their back.

I really do not understand this "Nobby has lost the dressing room" nonsense.


If the players show this kind of disrespect then they should be simply dropped to the reserves, or better still just not chosen.

They are supposed to be professionals.


Frankly whether they "like" a coach or not is irrelevant. They should be expected to perform to their best.


Drop them, and send a signal to other clubs tht these idiots are trouble makers.



Sadly the CC once again rears it's head in this situation- we simply cannot drop them and replace them with players of equal quality. The players have the club over a barrell.

I personally love the idea that as soon as the Noble walks out of the room all the players strike up as one with a chorus of "5hithead!"

Course you can. You cannot go sacking people willy nilly. You have to give timescales and targets to aim for. This is probably what IL has done. I am not sure I believe the 3 game thing though.

If IL has not had a "word" with Brian Noble over the last few months then I would be disapointed as it shows the club are accepting mediocrity.

I call mine to his face cos he is a "four eyed sh#thead" and he admits it !!

Even ultimate pro's like Hanley, Bell and Edwards used player power when Dorahay was in charge, its a natural reaction in most walks of life if you think the person dishing out the orders is incompetant, and rightly so in my opinion.

He should be given whats known in football terms " the dreaded vote on confidence " he will be sacked next week. Job done

If this is true then they are not "ultimate pros". They show charactersitics of babies who can't get their own way, and have gone down in my estimation.

Now they are coaches, presumably they would "understand" players under them reacting in a similar way?


Players are not paid to express opinions on the coach.


Frankly there is not ONE player in the current Wigan team who holds the moral right to question Nobby. He has achieved far more than any of the overpaid wasters that we currently have in our squad.

Sadly I think that's probably true



If some of the players are looking to undermine BN then what better way to have a secret name calling clique to belong to.

My source has nothing but respect for BN as he had a say in whether they got the job or not. They do no hold a grudge against him.

They were just reporting the kind of thing that is going on behind the scenes at the moment.

But I think John Dorahy was an extreme example. His incompetence was threatening to destroy a superb team.

With Noble it's not so clear cut. His tactics are nonexistant, but the team is also poor. Only the odd individual has occasionally shone during Noble's tenure.

The idea of them all giving him stick the moment his back is turned is quite amusing - the same is done with most of the players by the fans, and for better reasons: i.e. the fans feel badly let down, whereas with the players you get the feeling it's because they're being bitchy.

There is, I think, a very childish element creeping in at Wigan at player level. When IL read the Riot Act to them after the Huddersfield game last season - the incident that is often credited with turning the season around - several of them went whingeing to the press, instead of taking it on the chin like men. Any time a player is dropped - particularly one of the younger guys (who in former decades wouldn't even share the same dressing room with the first team), they complain to anyone who'll listen, knowing full well that word will get out. It doesn't surprise me entirely. I think there are a lot of negative influences around the fringes of Wigan RL these days. The guy who leads the 'we hate IL' brigade on the other website does it because his mate was released by the club. Others - some of them in the coaching set-up - stick their oar in because they see something in it for themselves - either in the form of job protection or job opportunity.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Nobby is undeserving of criticism. Far from it. But when we hear new members of the coaching team at Wigan saying that the entire culture at Wigan needs to change, then I think it's pretty clear what they mean.

The players may not like their boss. But as other posters have said, the vast majority of us don't - and we don't get the consolation of enormous salaries for doing the thing we love. As a job-lot, they need to man up.

Well said