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| Williams wont be with you next year.
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| Are u an actual Wigan fan as not one positive post I've seen from u? Your glass always seems half full lol
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Williams wont be with you next year.'"
Wow, Really, Did you work that one out yourself
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| Plenty of players in the championship for IL & KR to choose from. Heaven forbid we sign anyone of note that anyone else in SL would want.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"So it now looks likely Williams will be gone next year. This is now a club emergency. If O'loughlin and Tommy also retire which is likely, you do realise where that leaves us?
We will need half a new team! And many of the new players will need to be top class signings.
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1 x Centre
2 x Half Backs
2 x Props
1 x Hooker
1 x Loose Forward
At the very least you could stick with what we've got at centre and just bring in one new prop but even then we would still need 5 new signings, all of which must be genuine top class players.
Instead what we will likely get is maybe 1 or 2 decent players a couple of Bullock/Hankinson type signings and maybe a couple of promotions from youth set up. Is it any wonder Edwards is saying the things he is? He will be on a hiding to nothing before he starts unless our recent signing habits change.'"
We don’t need a centre or loose forward. Hamlin can slot into LF and we’ve got Sarginson and Gildart who are good enough for the time being. The priority just has to be new HB’s and props. I genuinely think 3/4 decent signings in that area will work wonders for us and sort a lot of our problems out. We don’t need a new centre yet, it just cannot be a priority for us.
I’ve said on another thread that we do need a new hooker who’s creative and speedy, Powell is just neither of those and it will be sad to see him go but it’s a “necessary evil”.
The problem lies in what do we prioritise? We’ve too much deadwood on the books who are here for years to come yet, we can’t just get rid of them without paying out (release) or waiting for a club to come and take them. I just can’t see IL sanctioning making 5/6 big signings without significant numbers walking out the door which therefore leads me to believe we’ll promote from within and cover most of the positions needed that way rather than bringing in new signings. It’s a sad reality I’m afraid.
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| I always thought that they should add another section in a card shop called "can you go now please?"
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| perfect clean slate for a new manager
not a problem so long as we start looking early
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"We don’t need a centre or loose forward. Hamlin can slot into LF and we’ve got Sarginson and Gildart who are good enough for the time being. The priority just has to be new HB’s and props. I genuinely think 3/4 decent signings in that area will work wonders for us and sort a lot of our problems out. We don’t need a new centre yet, it just cannot be a priority for us.
I’ve said on another thread that we do need a new hooker who’s creative and speedy, Powell is just neither of those and it will be sad to see him go but it’s a “necessary evil”.
The problem lies in what do we prioritise? We’ve too much deadwood on the books who are here for years to come yet, we can’t just get rid of them without paying out (release) or waiting for a club to come and take them. I just can’t see IL sanctioning making 5/6 big signings without significant numbers walking out the door which therefore leads me to believe we’ll promote from within and cover most of the positions needed that way rather than bringing in new signings. It’s a sad reality I’m afraid.'"
The thought of Hamlin as our first choice 13 does not thrill me. I like the guy as he seems like a decent bloke who tries hard but i dont think he is big enough to play prop and not skillful enough to play 13, has he ever passed the ball, i honestly cant remember him making one pass?
Agreed, we could go with what we've got at centre even though we do need some more size in the 3/4 line.
Absolute priority is a top class 7 and 6 if you do stick with Hamlin at 13 as you wont have the ball handling of O'Loughlin so your halves need to be top drawer.
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| Quote ="ShortArse"perfect clean slate for a new manager
not a problem so long as we start looking early'"
Problem is, its not very often you throw that many new faces into key positions and they click straight away and even if we have the cap space where are we going to find these top class players?
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Problem is, its not very often you throw that many new faces into key positions and they click straight away and even if we have the cap space where are we going to find these top class players?'"
of the players t replace tho, not all of them are 'top class'. look at that list:
1 x Centre
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1 x Hooker
1 x Loose Forward
the centres we have won the league last year. so even if they could be improved on, they are not the worst.
6,7,9 are steady with an inconsistent marquee player
props - again steady, but not GB props, so they cant be that stellar
IF Edwards comes, then his name alone will be enough to tempt some. so long as we are lining up replacements far enough out, and the expectation is not too high 1st year in, then I dont see an issue
the concern will be if the expectation is that we instantly become treble winners having changed 1/3 of the team
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| This is abysmal. 18mins in and we’ve played one up rugby with a powder puff defence. I hate working weekend nights but this is one of the rare occasions I’m glad I wasn’t given the option to go and pay to watch this garbage.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"The thought of Hamlin as our first choice 13 does not thrill me. I like the guy as he seems like a decent bloke who tries hard but i dont think he is big enough to play prop and not skillful enough to play 13, has he ever passed the ball, i honestly cant remember him making one pass?
Agreed, we could go with what we've got at centre even though we do need some more size in the 3/4 line.
Absolute priority is a top class 7 and 6 if you do stick with Hamlin at 13 as you wont have the ball handling of O'Loughlin so your halves need to be top drawer.'"
It doesn’t particularly thrill me but the role of 13 is changing to a third prop rather than that link between forwards and HB’s. Mainly due to the fact most props and forwards now are passing before they hit the line actually to their HB, renders the 13 role useless hence the shift.
I think the top class 6&7 is absolute priority as you say. Before any position we have to recruit and recruit well there. James Maloney would be my first target.
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"Wow, Really, Did you work that one out yourself
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Known for quite a while, dropped a couple of big enough hints on our board some while ago.
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| Quote ="Dezzies_right_hook"Are u an actual Wigan fan as not one positive post I've seen from u? Your glass always seems half full lol'"
If your referring to me, that's a scurrilous accusation.
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| I thought it was common knowledge that Sneyd will be playing at Wigan next year?
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"This is abysmal. 18mins in and we’ve played one up rugby with a powder puff defence. I hate working weekend nights but this is one of the rare occasions I’m glad I wasn’t given the option to go and pay to watch this garbage.'"
Its awful. Pass accuracy and speed is atrocious, defence is all over the place.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"This is abysmal. 18mins in and we’ve played one up rugby with a powder puff defence. I hate working weekend nights but this is one of the rare occasions I’m glad I wasn’t given the option to go and pay to watch this garbage.'"
Wish I worked weekend nights, total garbage I had to ask 30 minutes in if Williams was playing,was told yes then I asked on who's pitch
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| Quote ="Warrior Winger"Wish I worked weekend nights, total garbage I had to ask 30 minutes in if Williams was playing,was told yes then I asked on who's pitch'"
Here we go. Really don’t know how this comes down to Williams? The whole team is in disarray.
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| Quote ="WARRIOR5"Here we go. Really don’t know how this comes down to Williams? The whole team is in disarray.'"
He’s our marquee player in a main pivot position in an attack that looks worse than a school team that’s been thrown together for the first time.
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| Quote ="DannyT"He’s our marquee player in a main pivot position in an attack that looks worse than a school team that’s been thrown together for the first time.'"
Well you’ve hit the nail in the second part of your comment there. I’d be surprised to see any marquee player stand out in this Wigan attack. No platform, nobody running lines, no support.
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| Quote ="WARRIOR5"Well you’ve hit the nail in the second part of your comment there. I’d be surprised to see any marquee player stand out in this Wigan attack. No platform, nobody running lines, no support.'"
Williams role in part is to orchestrate the attack but he offers absolutely nothing. Needs to go to free up much needed salary cap space
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| Quote ="hatty"Williams role in part is to orchestrate the attack but he offers absolutely nothing. Needs to go to free up much needed salary cap space'"
It‘s fair enough if we spend it but if we decide to bring in Liam Finn then we’d be better keep throwing money at him.
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| Its not Williams fault. He may not be in his best form but i maintain that no halfback can work miracles if they have no options outside of them. Our attacking line offers no threat to the defending team, its just pass the parcel along the line from side to side.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Williams wont be with you next year.'"
Thank goodness. What a waste of a marquee slot.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Its not Williams fault. He may not be in his best form but i maintain that no halfback can work miracles if they have no options outside of them. Our attacking line offers no threat to the defending team, its just pass the parcel along the line from side to side.'"
its his job to get them going, hes out pivot and organiser....he makes the wrong decisions all the time. Is utter, utter garbage. Had enough for this hes young crap and its not his fault. Hes on top, top money and is no where near delivering it. Last year Sam madse his job easier as he did his job for him, now hes been found out without an outside or inside pivot.
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