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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Roberts at the moment is a better all round winger than Ainscough, and so he should be.
Had Ainscough played tonight we would have lost with more points.
Roberts not only saved the try from Dobson, but also managed the ball steal in the second half.
How many real try scoring chances did he get, I'll tell you - none.
How many wingers scored tonight - none.'"
As a big Ainscough follower that is what sets him apart from most other wingers.
He does not need to be put away.
To be fair tonight though hving only listened to the game Roberts sounded very solid in defence.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Roberts at the moment is a better all round winger than Ainscough, and so he should be.
Had Ainscough played tonight we would have lost with more points.
Roberts not only saved the try from Dobson, but also managed the ball steal in the second half.
How many real try scoring chances did he get, I'll tell you - none.
How many wingers scored tonight - none.'"
Another thing noticed tonight Brian was that Dobson's deficiencies were not particularly obvious and I looked hard for them. Once again he was the difference in a tight game.
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| Quote ="jonh"As a big Ainscough follower that is what sets him apart from most other wingers.
He does not need to be put away.
To be fair tonight though hving only listened to the game Roberts sounded very solid in defence.'"
Jonh,
Because of the conditions both teams played 10 metres inside the touchlines for fear of sliding out.
Fox, Roberts, Pat and Colbon never got a smell of the try line.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Jonh,
Because of the conditions both teams played 10 metres inside the touchlines for fear of sliding out.
Fox, Roberts, Pat and Colbon never got a smell of the try line.'"
Well in that case i think we need to ask why given the fact we continully failed to hurt them down the middle even with repeated sets and pressure.
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| Quote ="JTB"Another thing noticed tonight Brian was that Dobson's deficiencies were not particularly obvious and I looked hard for them. Once again he was the difference in a tight game.'"
To be fair he did have a reasonable defensive game, but he did spend a lot of tome defending out wide and I don't think we "got at him"
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"He was shocking today and doesnt look like he wants to be here, McIlorum was outstanding, i wont be to bothered if the rumours are true...'"
Id be happy if the rumours were true. Lets hope they are, get this fat lump out of the club and get a WC half back next year to play with sam. Tommy to hooker, the ever improving macca to interchange every week (or even the other way round) and weve got the makings of a class team.
On the topic of mcillurum.....if he continues in his recent form I can see a spot in the england team come end of the season.
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"
On the topic of mcillurum.....if he continues in his recent form I can see a spot in the england team come end of the season.'"
I cant, he plays for Ireland
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"On the topic of mcillurum.....if he continues in his recent form I can see a spot in the england team come end of the season.'"
He had a great first stint. His passing was atrocious in the second half however.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Roberts at the moment is a better all round winger than Ainscough, and so he should be.'"
Their stats prove you wrong. Defensively nothing in it. Attacking wise Ainscough is miles ahead.
Quote Had Ainscough played tonight we would have lost with more points.
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An absolutely ridiculous comment. Why would we have lost by more points?
Quote Roberts not only saved the try from Dobson, but also managed the ball steal in the second half.'"
Wow. Is that it?
Quote How many real try scoring chances did he get, I'll tell you - none.
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How many did he make for himself? None.
Quote How many wingers scored tonight - none.'"
And that is a recommendation for Roberts?
Ainscough is the sort of winger who is a real handful and looks for work. The exact kind we need given what poor service we give to our wingers.
I argued often Calderwood was not used properly because he needed open space and we never gave it. Well Ainscough does not and tonight that game was IMO tailor made for him.
Tight , close and requiring just how he plays the game.
Dave
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| Quote ="DaveO"Their stats prove you wrong. Defensively nothing in it. Attacking wise Ainscough is miles ahead.
An absolutely ridiculous comment. Why would we have lost by more points?
Wow. Is that it?
How many did he make for himself? None.
And that is a recommendation for Roberts?
Ainscough is the sort of winger who is a real handful and looks for work. The exact kind we need given what poor service we give to our wingers.
I argued often Calderwood was not used properly because he needed open space and we never gave it. Well Ainscough does not and tonight that game was IMO tailor made for him.
Tight , close and requiring just how he plays the game.
Dave'"
You are wasting your time mate, this fella won't stop until we have 17 foreign players in the team.
Roberts or Ainscough? I wouldn't even think about it, Ainscough every time.
If we have flown Roberts over for one tackle and a ball steal, then whoever signed his contract should be sacked immediately.
If Ainscough has been dropped after scoring 17 tries because he has things to work on in his game, then why hasn't Roberts been dropped because he isn't scoring tries?
I would rather have a winger who gets a bagful every week, and let's a couple in, than a winger who contributes nothing. (Apart from a tackle and a ball steal, of course)
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| I'd aim to put Riddell in the reserves for 3-4 weeks.
At a lower standard, he'd be able to spend more time of the field at a less intesity which I think he needs. On two instances last night, he dropped the ball at acting halfback and even didn't realize that his team mate had played the ball....To me, that's a lack of fitness & concentration which would be ironed out within the reserves giving him longer spells on in the pitch, more time go through the motions and more importantly, a kick up the backside.
On the flipside, Michael McIlorum is playing fantastically well regardless of Riddell's poor form.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"I'd aim to put Riddell in the reserves for 3-4 weeks.
At a lower standard, he'd be able to spend more time of the field at a less intesity which I think he needs. On two instances last night, he dropped the ball at acting halfback and even didn't realize that his team mate had played the ball....To me, that's a lack of fitness & concentration which would be ironed out within the reserves giving him longer spells on in the pitch, more time go through the motions and more importantly, a kick up the backside.
On the flipside, Michael McIlorum is playing fantastically well regardless of Riddell's poor form.'"
I understand that Riddell is a former NRL superman, but to me he looks out of his depth.
If I could be bothered I would go back about 10 weeks to find the threads were certain people were telling me that Riddell was the saviour, and that he was better than any other hooker at the club.
Those people look a bit silly now.
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"I'd aim to put Riddell in the reserves for 3-4 weeks.
At a lower standard, he'd be able to spend more time of the field at a less intesity which I think he needs. On two instances last night, he dropped the ball at acting halfback and even didn't realize that his team mate had played the ball....To me, that's a lack of fitness & concentration which would be ironed out within the reserves giving him longer spells on in the pitch, more time go through the motions and more importantly, a kick up the backside.
On the flipside, Michael McIlorum is playing fantastically well regardless of Riddell's poor form.'"
the guy has had an off-season to get fit. were nearly half way through the season and theres still concerns about his fitness. think it wil take alot more than afew weeks in reserves to sort him out.
is he ever gonna be capable of getting fit??
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"The one person in all this that needs a rest is Noble.
He has lost the plot.
Get rid, and get rid now.'"
Been saying this for over a year now! We will not be competitive until he is gone. BN states that 'we are heading in the right direction'.
Sorry Brian, the only direction I want to see you head is here:
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| Quote ="wiganstripleL"the guy has had an off-season to get fit. were nearly half way through the season and theres still concerns about his fitness. think it wil take alot more than afew weeks in reserves to sort him out.
is he ever gonna be capable of getting fit??'"
Change your location lad, you've only been gone 10 weeks!
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| Quote ="jonh"Well in that case i think we need to ask why given the fact we continully failed to hurt them down the middle even with repeated sets and pressure.'"
Maybe because Hull KR depended superbly?
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| Quote ="AJ"Maybe because Hull KR depended superbly?'"
All i am able to do is speculate but to me if we stick with a tactic that continually fails to produce the desired returns, then changes need to be made, it seems to me we just continued to attempt to go down the middle time and time agin which played right into KR's hands.
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| Quote ="jonh"All i am able to do is speculate but to me if we stick with a tactic that continually fails to produce the desired returns, then changes need to be made, it seems to me we just continued to attempt to go down the middle time and time agin which played right into KR's hands.'"
We didnt. We tried kicks, we tried various attacking plays. Due to the conditions the wingers had to come back inside or they would have been taken into touch.
KR scored two of the luckiest tries you will ever see. Their last was a cracking move. But they played the same way.
As time ticked down we forced more and due to the weather the ball went to ground, its that simple, when you see the game I cant see how you will see it differently.
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| Quote ="AJ"We didnt. We tried kicks, we tried various attacking plays. Due to the conditions the wingers had to come back inside or they would have been taken into touch.
KR scored two of the luckiest tries you will ever see. Their last was a cracking move. But they played the same way.
As time ticked down we forced more and due to the weather the ball went to ground, its that simple, when you see the game I cant see how you will see it differently.'"
Sorry, but you seem to have watched a different game.
We had 3 sets of 6 on their try line. 10 one-out dummy half runs, a number of fumbles, and one kick.
We lost, and it was nothing to do with Hull KR's luck.
We did exactly the same as we did against Saints earlier in the year when we lost. We had all the possession, and no idea what to do with it.
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| Quote ="AJ"We didnt. We tried kicks, we tried various attacking plays. Due to the conditions the wingers had to come back inside or they would have been taken into touch.
KR scored two of the luckiest tries you will ever see. Their last was a cracking move. But they played the same way.
As time ticked down we forced more and due to the weather the ball went to ground, its that simple, when you see the game I cant see how you will see it differently.'"
Fair play cannot comment on the specifics.
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| Quote ="Jack Kerley"Sorry, but you seem to have watched a different game.
We had 3 sets of 6 on their try line. 10 one-out dummy half runs, a number of fumbles, and one kick.
We lost, and it was nothing to do with Hull KR's luck.
We did exactly the same as we did against Saints earlier in the year when we lost. We had all the possession, and no idea what to do with it.'"
Didn't your "two best players" play in that game?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Didn't your "two best players" play in that game?'"
Sorry mate, but I don't watch anywhere near enough reserve games to get into a discussion with you.
Now then, why don't you get a cup of tea, settle back into your shrine to The Pig, and gaze longingly at the life size poster of Fatty which must, in all honesty, cover most of the walls in your house.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Didn't your "two best players" play in that game?'"
Yes, and one of them scored two tries in it.
Any other questions?
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| Quote ="DaveO"Their stats prove you wrong. Defensively nothing in it. Attacking wise Ainscough is miles ahead.
An absolutely ridiculous comment. Why would we have lost by more points?
Wow. Is that it?
How many did he make for himself? None.
And that is a recommendation for Roberts?
Ainscough is the sort of winger who is a real handful and looks for work. The exact kind we need given what poor service we give to our wingers.
I argued often Calderwood was not used properly because he needed open space and we never gave it. Well Ainscough does not and tonight that game was IMO tailor made for him.
Tight , close and requiring just how he plays the game.
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spot on dave
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| Quote ="AJ"Sam last night looked like someone who needed a rest. I back Noble in that decision.
However, having now given him a rest, Sam must be brought back in next week and Riddell removed.
He is imo, 3rd choice hooker currently.'"
Agreed.
I said at the game last night i agreed with the decision to rest Tomkins but his absence showed why he must be brought back in next week.
FWIW i didn't think Riddell played too badly. He defended tough(but not as tough as McIlorum) and made a couple of good runs even charging onto one like a prop.
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