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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"What's Darrell having for his tea tonight, Mrs Goulding?'"
nearly said something similiar myself yesterday
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"On this seasons form Goulding is well back in third place for the centre positions.
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1 try, 2 clean breaks, 2 try assists, 738 metres, 22 tackle busts
182 tackles, 12 errors, 2 penalties, 22 missed tackles.
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What are try assists? I thought that Goulding had a significant role in 3 of Charnley's tries against Widnes?
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| In the last second against Saints last week, with the ball travelling along the line and Josh on the outside, would you prefer Goulding, Gelling or Sarginson at centre?
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| Quote ="Finfin"In the last second against Saints last week, with the ball travelling along the line and Josh on the outside, would you prefer Goulding, Gelling or Sarginson at centre?'"
Whichever one was fully fit and in form
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| There's a highlights video called "Darrell Goulding - Wigan Warriors Highlights" on youtube which sums him up pretty well tbh. It's one of the most boring player highlights videos I've ever seen which emphasises that he is solid and not flashy. It also shows just how much time and space Tomkins created for him chiming in and making a 3 on 2.
I'm not slating Goulding nor am I only having a go because he's leaving. I had a good few discussions on the VT that he should've been in the England squad (as a centre) after the 2012 season, but in all honesty he has gone backwards since then. He'll be 27 next year and I imagine expecting one of his most lucrative contracts, and if he's not a guaranteed starter at Wigan he's not going to get that here.
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| best centre gone
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| Quote ="WARRIORCRAIG"There's a highlights video called "Darrell Goulding - Wigan Warriors Highlights" on youtube which sums him up pretty well tbh. It's one of the most boring player highlights videos I've ever seen which emphasises that he is solid and not flashy. It also shows just how much time and space Tomkins created for him chiming in and making a 3 on 2.'"
FFS its a few clips that someone has done from about 4 games from last season, I suppose any reason to knock him. Funny how all the posters that have always criticised Goulding are still the ones criticising him to the end.
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| Personally I think he is the best centre at the club and it wasn't that long ago there was uproar on here that he wasn't in the England squad. I didn't think he was international standard personally but many on here did. However like whenever anyone dares to leave our club people soon pretend said player is rubbish. You only have to look at the laughable charnley thread a few months ago when he was rumoured to be leaving as evidence.
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| Quote ="Woody_woody"Personally I think he is the best centre at the club and it wasn't that long ago there was uproar on here that he wasn't in the England squad. I didn't think he was international standard personally but many on here did. However like whenever anyone dares to leave our club people soon pretend said player is rubbish. You only have to look at the laughable charnley thread a few months ago when he was rumoured to be leaving as evidence.'"
No one is saying he is rubbish, just that he's the third best centre at the club and that it's probably for the best all round that he'll be at a club where he gets a spot every week. Let's be honest, I seriously doubt Saints, Leeds or Warrington will have been chasing his signature
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| Quote ="Grimmy"No one is saying he is rubbish, just that he's the third best centre at the club and that it's probably for the best all round that he'll be at a club where he gets a spot every week. Let's be honest, I seriously doubt Saints, Leeds or Warrington will have been chasing his signature'"
Still on your crusade repeating the same nonsense.
You forgot to add this is all in your opinion which you try to dress up as fact. Obviously in many peoples eyes you are wrong and most people I know think he is the best centre at the club and by some distance. I would also much rather base my opinion on the last couple of years rather than the last couple of months when Gelling only got a game after Goulding told the club he wouldnt be staying, strange that. You have not got a clue who was chasing his signature either and I believe that Saints were indeed chasing his signature but he didnt even entertain the idea. If you think that Goulding wouldnt have been in demand you are living in lala land.
No matter how much you criticise Goulding it doesnt make your beloved Gelling a decent centre either.
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| Quote ="Famous"FFS its a few clips that someone has done from about 4 games from last season, I suppose any reason to knock him. Funny how all the posters that have always criticised Goulding are still the ones criticising him to the end.'"
It was uploaded by Joshua Parr who was head performance analyst. I've never been critical of Goulding until this season, in fact I was a big fan of his and was saying he should have been in the England squad in 2012. I'm not entirely confident that Gelling/Sarginson/Thornley provides enough quality at centre but I've been equally unimpressed with Daz this year, he looks unfit and those stats that Rogues has posted are pretty abysmal. I wouldn't have been on here screaming that he should go but now that it's been confirmed he's off I can see where the coaching staff are coming from.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"No one is saying he is rubbish, just that he's the third best centre at the club and that it's probably for the best all round that he'll be at a club where he gets a spot every week. Let's be honest, I seriously doubt Saints, Leeds or Warrington will have been chasing his signature'"
True but I doubt either of those said clubs would want to sign gelling or sarginson either and therein lies the point. Goulding is the only out and out centre we have. I can't see gelling or sarge doing a grubber play like goulding did on the biggest stage of all to put charnley away and put us in front. That type of natural centre play comes from playing the position for a number of years. This is no way a dig at gelling or sarge who I think have done a reasonable job stepping in. Gildart looks like he has potential but is at least a year or two off first team level yet. If we're not going to sign anyone I think this leaves us weaker in an already weak position.
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| Easily the best centre at the club, let him play without injury and watch him get Charnley away again and again and again, like he has done for the last 2 years.
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| Quote ="Pieman"Easily the best centre at the club, let him play without injury and watch him get Charnley away again and again and again, like he has done for the last 2 years.'"
Rubbish, Goulding has been average for most of his Wigan career, he had a few moments of being above average but that's it.
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Rubbish, Goulding has been average for most of his Wigan career, he had a few moments of being above average but that's it.'"
Goulding might be average for a centre, but centre is a specialist position and we haven't had a decent centre since George Carmont. There is a dearth of centres in the British game today anyway, so unless we have a decent centre 'in the pipeline' it can't be a good thing to lose an half decent centre can it ?
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| Quote ="fleabag"Goulding might be average for a centre, but centre is a specialist position and we haven't had a decent centre since George Carmont. There is a dearth of centres in the British game today anyway, so unless we have a decent centre 'in the pipeline' it can't be a good thing to lose an half decent centre can it ?'"
So what? He still isn't good enough to play centre for Wigan on a regular basis. He has been a cheap option as he came through the system. Now he wants more cash he's on his way.
Not too convinced by Gelling or Sarginson but at least they show desire and Thornley is better.
Hughes is gash and is only playing for Wigan due to a SW man crush..
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"So what? He still isn't good enough to play centre for Wigan on a regular basis. He has been a cheap option as he came through the system. Now he wants more cash he's on his way.
Not too convinced by Gelling or Sarginson but at least they show desire and Thornley is better.
Hughes is gash and is only playing for Wigan due to a SW man crush..'"
Well Thornely can't play both sides of the pitch at once so despite the fact you're not convinced by the three other players mentioned as his potential replacement you are happy to see him leave thus leaving the side weaker. Sound logic that.
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| absence really does make the heart grow fonder - few months back thornley was copping all sorts on here - doesn't run his size, doesn't seem motivated, not sure why we brought him back, whats all the fuss about etc etc
Now hes the main man?
as for the previous poster who said gouldings not good enough for wigan - he was good enough last year to win the double?
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| If SW plans to replace Goulding with Gelling he needs to give his head a wobble. Gelling is not good enough for Wigan and ought to be shipped out quick.
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| There isn't a better centre at Wigan than Goulding, to improve the team we need a signing.... Gelling isn't as good, but if he reaches his potential he will be better. Simple as that as far as I'm concerned.
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| I would have Gelling in the second row. I don't think his concentration and skill level is there for a centre. He could well be a 'tackle buster' in the SR.
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Rubbish, Goulding has been average for most of his Wigan career, he had a few moments of being above average but that's it.'"
clueless fella, hes a good defender, good pace and gets his winger away.
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| Quote ="Pieman"clueless fella, hes a good defender, good pace and gets his winger away.'"
Clueless, he's an average joe who performed at his best (above average) for a season and a half, and has been steady over the past few years.
He hasn't progressed from there and obviously the club feel he isn't worth extra money.
We need a strike and not someone who just passes it along the line.
Right choice by the club and Goulding.
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| Quote ="fleabag"George Carmont'"
The last world class centre to play in SL. Will there be another any time soon?
Back on topic, Goulding was solid but far from spectacular. Can't get excited about this to be honest.
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| George Carmont was a superb centre, his replacement should have been Joel Moon. Wigan missed the boat on that one.
Looking to the future, both Oliver Gildart and Jack Higginson look very good prospects, but are a few years away from continuous 1st team selection, and that's only IF they continue their improvement.
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