Hansen was missed in the same way that pretty much any first team player is missed when they are out. They are in the first team because of what they offer and when they are missing then those skills go missing too unless someone can replace them.
Ignoring the Farrell/Hansen debate, it's Tuson who basically came in to replace Hansen and there is no comparison. Hansen is solid if unspectacular and defends brilliantly whilst Tuson has been poor in defence and doesn't attack well enough to make up for that either. For that reason I think Hansen has been missed.
He hasn't been missed in the same way that a key player would, such as Sam Tomkins, O'Loughlin, Hoffman or Richards but when you take Hansen out of the side there is a weakness there. Lack of size is a problem when having Farrell and Tuson in the back row but Hansen is big enough to make a difference.

I wouldnt say we've missed him since hes been injured, but that doesnt mean his value to the team is any less. It just means that the other Second Rows we have - Hoffman, Farrell, Tuson and Hughes, have been performing to the high standard we expect.

Hansons workrate is second to none in that position and as soon as he is fit to play again, he will be straight back in the team. So he doesnt do the flashy stuff that everybody notices, but he does all the hard work, he would tackle a bull if it ran at him and he makes good meters in attack.

Looking forward to his return from injury because we will be much stronger with him than without.

This is what I was going to say. We beat Huddersfield without Sam and Huddersfield have beat Warrington twice this season who are sitting top of the table.

By this logic, Sam is rubbish

what a load of e you've just spouted there you could say that about any injured player we've had missing since start of the season if you wanted put it that way , H is a solid all round player so if your saying have we not missed his avg 40 tackles a game also his awesome trys what he s scored this season your deluded

At last someone who sees the point. I've not (on this occasion discussed Hansens ability on any level) just backed up my original post-was he missed? The clear answer is no. Regardless of his ability he wasn't missed. I made a note of this after the cr@p I took for pointing out he won't be missed.

Anyway he's average at best. Many better in the SL. Wouldn't stsnd out at Wakey. Same goes for Goulding Coley and McM.

Who's John stape?
You are a petty petty petty boy.

The fact that people are disagreeing with that theory of yours rather renders your point I've quoted rather stupid doesn't it?

Hansen is a vital part of Wigan's team, and as others have pointed out, his absence has told in some of our performances of late.

Mate, you made a thread to

A. Try and show how you were right and everybody else is wrong
B. Put down one of our own players

Pretty petty if you ask me

We miss his size in defence. Farrell and Tuson are small for second rowers and that tells when they're both on the field for extended periods.

what about karl pryce??

You are right to a degree. The amount of cr@p people get in here at times is shocking, even when they have a valid point or whether it's just an opinion. So forgive me for sticking one back.

I never even mentioned the cr@p I got a few years back for suggesting Sam would be a good FB.


The rest is history.

Because we haven't lost when Hansen didn't play doesn't mean he wasn't missed. Can you be sure the team wouldn't have played better if HH had been playing? You can win a game by 2 points, or you can blow a team away by 40 points, both would be wins but the performance completely different. Surely the only way you could prove he hadn't been missed would be to prove that if he played, the performance from the team would have been equal or worse, you can't prove that, so I don't see how you can claim you are correct and everyone else is wrong? It has been suggested (and I agree) that had HH played against Crusaders we may have conceded less points due to mistakes by (I think) Tuson, so that would suggest that he was missed in that game at least?






Slightly OT but who would you sign on the same wages to replace these average at best players?

? Because I commented on several players not being good enough it's now upto me to recruit and replace? No.
If I thought you were honestly looking for a general chat on who I rate in RL I would have discussesd. However, considering the nature attitudes in here it was probably a prompt to get me to name players to then have a go at my picks.

I don't think I've read a thread where so many people have disagreed with the op. Not one has agreed with you yet. If we were to lose to Hull KR or Catalans next week does that mean, in your eyes, that we have missed him because its all down to one player and not the team or the squad depth.

That wasn't how it was intended, of course it's not up to you to recruit and replace, I would be interested to see which players you would rate as equivalent or better than those you named, sometimes as a fan of a team you have an exaggerated view of it's players.

in that case then do you mind telling us how much money all these players are on so we could have ago then?

Haha point taken



What I was getting at was that they aren't players on top wages (I guess

).

I would imagine the majority of posters on here are from marsh green or some other classy upbringing, probably the same mindless idiots who shout the most retarded comments down at the DW.
I find it laughable that I think there is only one other poster who actually understood my point.
Was he missed? No. How can back up such comments? Because his absence didn't effect the results. We've won all the fixtures since his injury.

Hansen has many qualities as a player, but did his absence effect the outcome of the fixtures he missed? No.
People mentioned well did we miss Pat? Yes. Pat not being there to convert cos us points. Him not being there in the WCC was v costly.

One idiot tried to compare it to the one game we won without Sam and Joel (Huddersfield) just demonstrates the lack of smarts in this forum to make such a comparison.

you dont know this, we could have scored more and conceded less with him playing. Its all speculation not fact.

ha i know i was just joking really. out of them players name i would say goulding is the most average player. I like micky mac and coley and hansen is a work horse but i do think alot of wigan fans overate hansen. To say he is our best 2nd rower after hoffman is laughable imo! he reminds me of jamie jones buchanan for leeds. Gets through alot of work for the team but doesnt do anything spectacular!

But what isn't is our record in his absence.

But we havent played anyone good yet in his absence, he played against Saints and Huddersfield when we won. He was on the bencgh and went off injured against Cats so that tells you a story doesnt it?

Do you think Hansen being out alll season could potentially cost us the title?

The backs have clicked since he got injured. That has nothing to do with Hansen. Stupid argument.

Some weird threads and comments on this board at the moment. First on another thread we see Wigan fans acting like the season's already over and conceding a league and cup double to the Wolfs (it's not even June yet!!!

), then a thread criticising Madge and now a thread having a pop at HH....