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| Quote ="Conroy"Did the Wigan castoffs actually sing a song about their team? All I heard was 80 minutes of the usual anti Wigan crap.'"
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| Quote ="Cruncher"My thoughts on Leigh last night.
Good sized following - would put at least half the Super League clubs to shame. Just a pity they don't do that for every match.
Very noisy. Pity most of it was foul-mouthed anti-Wigan profanity, which negates any good will it might have created. Do they not have any actual 'support Leigh' songs?
Their team was utterly woeful. Wigan took it easy on them, even earlier in the game when they were racking up the scores. There was very little vicious defence on show. It was like a training game, only less difficult than that if I'm honest. Wigan were barely trying in the second period.
Therefore - not a lot has changed in the relatives statuses of Wigan RL and Leigh RL. It's much as it always was.
At some point Leigh people, those who care about RL at least - which is plainly not many - ought to realise that defining themselves by a jealous hatred of Wigan is no way to progress, either in sport or life. But as that's now been going on for so long, I'm not holding my breath.
Leigh = joke.'"
You really are blind blickered and silly to post that completely UNBIASED tripe.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"You really are blind blickered and silly to post that completely UNBIASED tripe.'"
No mate, it's all true. But if you don't want that kind of truth to hit you in the face like a brick, I suggest you aim your outrage at the Leigh pillock who started this pointless thread, the only outcome of which has been you lot getting owned for the second day on the trot.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"You really are blind blickered and silly to post that completely UNBIASED tripe.'"
Do you honestly think what Cruncher posted is untrue.
Wigan played for 15 minutes and during that time were running at 1.5 points per minute. That type of effort was achieved with several players including key one rested. A century + defeat was on the cards if Wigan cared enough. The saddest aspect about last night very few people cared despite the rhetoric. The biggest joke is the delusion that Leyther think they are rivals to Wigan. Forget Geography, anybody who said well done to you Leythers was patrionising you. Let us be honest, Leigh sucked. Hence the so called great rivalry led to fewer Wiganers attending a fixture than v anybody else incl Catalans, London and so forth.
The Leigh fans broke every rule regarding RFL fan behaviour and national sports stadia. Proud or It was akin to the land time forgot in the North Stand last night. It is years / a decade since fans behaved like the Leythers did. Other Championship teams have done far better, Barrow for example.
As long as RL fans like Leythers continue to delude themselves, our sport will never make progress.
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| Quote ="Mr Northstander"I cant believe what I am hearing on radio GMR, bloody idiots the pair of them along with Steve McCormack talking about Wigan like they are some sort of super team!
When did Wigan last do / win anything under Shaun Wayne?
Lets see what happens to Wigan when they play an equivelant team like Leed Rhinos! Last season Leeds battered Wigan in the challenge cup and the play offs and will do so again this season, as will the Wire and Saints!
Best about this is all you can hear are the Leigh fans out singing the the wigan fans!'"
Alternative idiots on commentary are available!
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"Do you honestly think what Cruncher posted is untrue.
Wigan played for 15 minutes and during that time were running at 1.5 points per minute. That type of effort was achieved with several players including key one rested. A century + defeat was on the cards if Wigan cared enough. The saddest aspect about last night very few people cared despite the rhetoric. The biggest joke is the delusion that Leyther think they are rivals to Wigan. Forget Geography, anybody who said well done to you Leythers was patrionising you. Let us be honest, Leigh sucked. Hence the so called great rivalry led to fewer Wiganers attending a fixture than v anybody else incl Catalans, London and so forth.
The Leigh fans broke every rule regarding RFL fan behaviour and national sports stadia. Proud or
It was akin to the land time forgot in the North Stand last night. It is years / a decade since fans behaved like the Leythers did. Other Championship teams have done far better, Barrow for example.
As long as RL fans like Leythers continue to delude themselves, our sport will never make progress.'"
Diddums.
You mistake Leigh's distaste of Wigan as a sporting rivalry. That's but a small part of it.
We know what the state of our team is, what the state of our club is and we turned up anyway. Sure, the chanting could have been more positive, and usually is - but it's been 8 years since we had the chance to tell your home support what we think of them and we only had 80 minutes in which to get the message across, loud and clear.
And with the 'council tax' gloating from Wiganers, it would seem we have good reason to be upset with having our tax funds going to WMBC.
Hope we get the chance to come and have another sing at the DW some time soon. Until then, good luck and have fun!
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| Quote ="Cruncher"No mate, it's all true. But if you don't want that kind of truth to hit you in the face like a brick, I suggest you aim your outrage at the Leigh pillock who started this pointless thread, the only outcome of which has been you lot getting owned for the second day on the trot.'"
Well obviously Leigh did not play anyone on Thursday but you are completely silly in your observations as is the following poster Fylde Warrior.
Did Leigh fans support really annoy you so much that you wish you had not supported your team ? Was there any violence in the Stands or in Wigan before or after the game ?
Was anyone psychologically damaged ? Why do you think even your own team came over to the Leigh end after the game to applaud the fans ?
I really do think if Wigan spent 180k on the salary cap instead of 1.8 million per season you would not be in such a smug silly mood as Fylde Warrior who constantly posts condescending tripe on the Leyther board.
Get real for Leythers this was our Cup Final. OK you won. Did anyone think they would not ?
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"Diddums.
You mistake Leigh's distaste of Wigan as a sporting rivalry. That's but a small part of it.
We know what the state of our team is, what the state of our club is and we turned up anyway. Sure, the chanting could have been more positive, and usually is - but it's been 8 years since we had the chance to tell your home support what we think of them and we only had 80 minutes in which to get the message across, loud and clear.
And with the 'council tax' gloating from Wiganers, it would seem we have good reason to be upset with having our tax funds going to WMBC.
Hope we get the chance to come and have another sing at the DW some time soon. Until then, good luck and have fun!'"
You seem to think that we, as Wiganers, care that you hate us? It doesn't bother us. It's a bunch of toothless rednecks spouting out uneducated drivel. If you put as much effort into supporting your club, as you did hating Wigan, you might get more than 1500 through the turnstiles each week.
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"
And with the 'council tax' gloating from Wiganers, it would seem we have good reason to be upset with having our tax funds going to WMBC.'"
Cough Splutter. Just remind me, how exactly was the Leigh Sports Village funded?
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| From the sale of the land at Hilton Park Leigh Easts and Leigh Harriers.
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"You seem to think that we, as Wiganers, care that you hate us? It doesn't bother us. It's a bunch of toothless rednecks spouting out uneducated drivel. If you put as much effort into supporting your club, as you did hating Wigan, you might get more than 1500 through the turnstiles each week.'"
Over the last 8 years, my approximate amount of time spent actively displaying a dislike for Wigan is approx 80 minutes. In that same timespan, I've worked thousands of unpaid hours directly for my club. I'm really not worried about my sense of perspective on this issue.
It's also irrelevant to us if Wiganers don't care or don't want to hear it.
I think we might get more through the gates if weren't playing in a league that limits you to being crowned the 15th best team in England, for the foreseeable future - and all at the behest of the morally suspect RFL.
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| Quote ="Finfin"Cough Splutter. Just remind me, how exactly was the Leigh Sports Village funded?'"
Its build was funded by:
* Sale of land at Leigh East
* Sale of land on Holden Road, previously home of Leigh Harriers.
* Transfer of council owned land for the LSV site to Greenbank partnership
* Central grant money from education and sporting sources
The arrangement for transfer of land to Greenbank was arranged so that Greenbank could develop the non public aspects of the site for profit, while they paid the upfront costs of the stadium, college, sports hall, athletics venue and Leigh East ARLFC facilities, minus any grant money available.
There maybe a little more detail to it, but that's the big picture stuff.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"Well obviously Leigh did not play anyone on Thursday but you are completely silly in your observations as is the following poster Fylde Warrior.
Did Leigh fans support really annoy you so much that you wish you had not supported your team ? Was there any violence in the Stands or in Wigan before or after the game ?
Was anyone psychologically damaged ? Why do you think even your own team came over to the Leigh end after the game to applaud the fans ?
I really do think if Wigan spent 180k on the salary cap instead of 1.8 million per season you would not be in such a smug silly mood as Fylde Warrior who constantly posts condescending tripe on the Leyther board.
Get real for Leythers this was our Cup Final. OK you won. Did anyone think they would not ?'"
Nothing condescending about pointing out a few home truths. No doubt Salford Lad you were part of the gloating mob celebrating your first team beating up on our youngsters in a meaningless pre season friendly.
However, such stupidity is meaningless. Far more damaging is the small minded ignorance that holds back rugby league in Leigh and many parts of this country. Look at Leigh East and their self inflicted demise brought about by Leythers hurting Leythers. Why? self interest, short term thinking.
Leythers are either too wrapped up in their own little world to realise a bigger better RL would sell RL to more Leythers than Leigh RLFC ever could. Look at Leigh schools, Leigh junior teams despite some sterling individual efforts, development of junior RL talent still does not fully reflect a RL hotbed.
Every club in the RL has to contend with the RFL, local and national government yet the people of Leigh wallow in self pity and deluded pats on the back for singing Karoake. Leythers have the DW stewards to thank for their handling of the dark age neanderthal behaviour of the Leigh fans. Last night could have become very ugly.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"Last night could have become very ugly.'"
Why could it? Which likely scenarios were going to result in the situation becoming 'very ugly'?
We were there to make some noise, not for a scrap. I saw not even a hint of trouble anywhere in or around the ground.
What an incredibly ridiculous thing to suggest.
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| Sometimes when people are wrong they just can't see it.
Lifelong Leythers like me think Wigan have some great players and for me Sam Tomkins is the best talent in the game.
Leigh fans tried to lift our side after an abysmal performance at Halifax.
Our players responded to that support and Wigan players thought so too otherwise they wouldn't have applauded Leigh fans support at the end of the game.
We know Wigan have a very good side and some extremely talented players and I just cannot believe anyone at last nights game apart from one or two who live such sheltered lives could possibly get annoyed with that.
Not one person was arrested. No person was ejected from the ground. There was no fighting between opposing fans before or after the game.
You think Leythers are bad you are deluded and should watch footie teams like Millwall.
Just to finish I think Wigan are a very good side and I hope one day the club I support have the same.
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| Quote ="Mr Northstander"I cant believe what I am hearing on radio GMR, bloody idiots the pair of them along with Steve McCormack talking about Wigan like they are some sort of super team!
When did Wigan last do / win anything under Shaun Wayne?
Lets see what happens to Wigan when they play an equivelant team like Leed Rhinos! Last season Leeds battered Wigan in the challenge cup and the play offs and will do so again this season, as will the Wire and Saints!
Best about this is all you can hear are the Leigh fans out singing the the wigan fans!'"
If you are "a loyal Leigh fan since 1968" how come you were listening to the match on GMT rather than attending the match?
Please don't tell me you working ... we all know Leigh's six fingered glove factory closes at 5pm
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"Why could it? Which likely scenarios were going to result in the situation becoming 'very ugly'?
We were there to make some noise, not for a scrap. I saw not even a hint of trouble anywhere in or around the ground.
What an incredibly ridiculous thing to suggest.'"
If the DW stewards had intervened and acted at any point last night then all hell would have broken loose. You know that, I know that, as everybody does. The stewards had to ignore anything and everything re behaviour that they should act upon. To keep the peace they turned a blind eye.
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| Quote ="I8pies"If you are "a loyal Leigh fan since 1968" how come you were listening to the match on GMT rather than attending the match?
Please don't tell me you working ... we all know Leigh's six fingered glove factory closes at 5pm'"
Due to the difficult economic climate, exports of both six fingered gloves and meyt n prater pie fillings to Wigan have fallen dramatically. So much so, most of the Leigh workforce are no longer employed in either the six fingered glove factories or the pie filling mining industry.
I think most of them work in pound shops now, but I don't have any official figure to back that up...
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"If the DW stewards had intervened and acted at any point last night then all hell would have broken loose. You know that, I know that, as everybody does. The stewards had to ignore anything and everything re behaviour that they should act upon. To keep the peace they turned a blind eye.'"
This is even more silly than a lot of your posts Go and have a valium.
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| agree with everything salfordlad says. turning a blind eye is no excuse.
thats the argument of the weak, and i'm sure the Club would be embarrased that people thought that
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"If the DW stewards had intervened and acted at any point last night then all hell would have broken loose. You know that, I know that, as everybody does. The stewards had to ignore anything and everything re behaviour that they should act upon. To keep the peace they turned a blind eye.'"
What behaviour in particular was causing problems that should have required steward intervention?
On a related point, I saw the same steward head to the rear of the stand on a couple of occasions. There was never any trouble, and people did as they were asked (clearing the steps I think).
Why do you seem so intent on suggesting that there was malice in the Leigh fans behaviour? Your conjecture is contradictory to the actual evidence.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"If the DW stewards had intervened and acted at any point last night then all hell would have broken loose. You know that, I know that, as everybody does. The stewards had to ignore anything and everything re behaviour that they should act upon. To keep the peace they turned a blind eye.'"
You are having a dig at a Leigh supporter (Salford Lad) who does a tremendous amount of work for the Leigh club, I was with him for a little while on Friday in the pub before the match and he was telling me that he never misses a match home or away.
But all you can say is trouble by Leigh supporters was averted by the stewards turning a blind eye, maybe if the Huddersfield stewards had turned a blind eye a few weeks ago against some Wigan supporters Wigan would have come out of the situation with an untarnished reputation.
I do not think so.
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"You are having a dig at a Leigh supporter (Salford Lad) who does a tremendous amount of work for the Leigh club, I was with him for a little while on Friday in the pub before the match and he was telling me that he never misses a match home or away.
But all you can say is trouble by Leigh supporters was averted by the stewards turning a blind eye, maybe if the Huddersfield stewards had turned a blind eye a few weeks ago against some Wigan supporters Wigan would have come out of the situation with an untarnished reputation.
I do not think so.'"
Brian this Wigan fan is so against everything Leigh it's embarrassing he's always on our forum putting us down as if we are not already down enough lets get back to the good banter that was being posted before the game. Sorry I couldn't have a pint with you last night mate maybe next time. Good luck for the season to all genuine Wigan fans.
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| Unfortunatey, even Wigan have some narrow minded fans. Nothing wrong with banter, its all part of the game. As a Wigan fan , i hope to see Leigh become more secure in their future and enjoy the rivallry between the teams, in true derby style.
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| Quote ="jeffb"Unfortunatey, even Wigan have some narrow minded fans. Nothing wrong with banter, its all part of the game. As a Wigan fan , i hope to see Leigh become more secure in their future and enjoy the rivallry between the teams, in true derby style.'"
Thanks jeffb. Most Leigh fans, the ones I know anyway would love to be one day half as good as Wigan are now, but sadly we are a long way from even being that. Good luck for the season.
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