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| Quote ="AJ"Ill take your word for it then, because I have no idea about that.
But yet our chairman constantly refers to his and Brians plans with regards recruitment for 2010, so no, it doesn't worry me with regards recruitment, what worries me is will IL pay the going rate for players we need.'"
Yet he is totally non committal and we are now in a very late stage for a deal to be placed on the table, we are now in a position where other clubs can realistically poach him should they want to, which at the moment it seems they do not.
Wigan as a club are a huge club they should/could no longer be able to sign the top players in the world, there is no excuse for not having a top coach at the club. The lack of clamour for BN's signature from the Wigan club or any other speaks volumes in my opinion.
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| Quote ="jonh"Yet he is totally non committal and we are now in a very late stage for a deal to be placed on the table, we are now in a position where other clubs can realistically poach him should they want to, which at the moment it seems they do not.'"
No, he said tonight he wants him to be there next season (and hopes Brian wants to stay - which we know he does), but for that to happen Wigan need to be on form or words to that effect.
Quote ="jonh"The lack of clamour for BN's signature from the Wigan club or any other speaks volumes in my opinion.'"
Lets not start posting opinion as fact now. You have no idea if any other club are interested in Noble and may make a move IF it becomes apparent that Noble will be leaving Wigan.
IL wants Noble to stay imo, I think their is some hardball from both sides and the deal is being slowed up as a result of our inconsistent league form.
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| Quote ="AJ"No, he said tonight he wants him to be there next season (and hopes Brian wants to stay - which we know he does), but for that to happen Wigan need to be on form or words to that effect.
Lets not start posting opinion as fact now. You have no idea if any other club are interested in Noble and may make a move IF it becomes apparent that Noble will be leaving Wigan.
IL wants Noble to stay imo, I think their is some hardball from both sides and the deal is being slowed up as a result of our inconsistent league form.'"
So basically from what IL has said BN is still having to earn a new deal at this late stage, he has yet to manage it. Lets be honest he got a 1 year deal last year which is not a show of faith, the best he can hope for is another 1 year deal regardless of how we finish this year. A great coach that a club like Wigan deserves should not be scratching around for a 1 year deal at this stage of the year in my opinion.
Have standards dropped at this club so far?
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| Quote ="jonh"So basically from what IL has said BN is still having to earn a new deal at this late stage, he has yet to manage it. Lets be honest he got a 1 year deal last year which is not a show of faith, the best he can hope for is another 1 year deal regardless of how we finish this year. A great coach that a club like Wigan deserves should not be scratching around for a 1 year deal at this stage of the year in my opinion.
Have standards dropped at this club so far?'"
We don't know it will only be a 1yr deal next time.
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| Quote ="AJ"We don't know it will only be a 1yr deal next time.'"
Do you seriously think it will be anything more? I would be very surprised if it comes at all but if it does given the position we are in at the moment anything more than a 1 year deal would be insane.
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| Quote ="jonh"Do you seriously think it will be anything more? I would be very surprised if it comes at all but if it does given the position we are in at the moment anything more than a 1 year deal would be insane.'"
2 year deal will end up being signed imo.
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| Quote ="AJ"We don't know it will only be a 1yr deal next time.'"
Just to but in Lenagan said something on the radio earlier on that suggested if Noble got a deal it'll be for 1 year only.
I can't remember the exact wording of it but he made that out. I remember thinking that if he isn't going to back him with more then a year i wouldn't bother at all.
Either he's with him or not. Half ar*ed measures won't do for me.
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| Quote ="Madderzahatter"Good interview with IL on GMR - anyone hear it?
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a) when he was in Australia he was disappointed by some of the players he had on his hit list, but saw a few that he felt that we could pursue
b) wants to hook up with an Aussie club so we can swap players
c) wants to see more youngsters come through the ranks
d) sounds like he wants Noble to get to/win a final before he offers a new contract
He seems to be talking the talk, let's just see what the next few months bring...'"
I heard it after the game sat in the car while waiting for the barrier to go up and the above four points were basically what he said.
I thought as regards your point a) above what he actually did was contradict himself. The way he was going on at the start of the interview I thought he was basically saying there was no one down there to sign.
Then later on he pipes up and says he has seen three players he might be interested in bringing over.
Another confusing aspect of the interview was his comment about young Australian players. Basically he put forward the idea it might be a good thing to sign young Aussie players[i before[/i they gain representative honours instead of 30 something established players. OK I am not a great fan of bringing in older players myself but what would signing young Aussie players mean for our own young players? He wasn't on about signing some young Aussie who was already making a name for himself or one who was considered the real deal but just young Aussie players.
I find this very odd because why would we want to bring in young players of that standard when he was also praising how well our junior sides were doing but at the same time acknowledging it is difficult to keep them all at the club ?
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Just to but in Lenagan said something on the radio earlier on that suggested if Noble got a deal it'll be for 1 year only.
I can't remember the exact wording of it but he made that out. I remember thinking that if he isn't going to back him with more then a year i wouldn't bother at all.
Either he's with him or not. Half ar*ed measures won't do for me.'"
From memory he said "id love Brian to be here next year". Which to my mind doesn't imply a 1 year deal, merely that he wants him to carry on.
Might be taking it the wrong way though.
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| Quote ="AJ"2 year deal will end up being signed imo.'"
Time will tell, but at this late stage i would be stunned if we decide to offer him a deal it will be anything more than another 1 year deal.
Given the coaches we have missed out on by renewing Nobles deal can we afford not to throw big money at Smith who is available or risk missing out on further top coaches should we have to put up with another consistently poor 2010?
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| Quote ="AJ"From memory he said "id love Brian to be here next year". Which to my mind doesn't imply a 1 year deal, merely that he wants him to carry on.
Might be taking it the wrong way though.'"
I can't remember what he said exactly but the though came into my head at the time that he's edging towards offering him a new one year deal at some point.
I personally would let him go but if Lenagan does plan to keep him it should be on at least a 2 year deal so everybody knows where they stand.
Doing it 1 year at a time isn't the way to go imo.
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| Quote ="jonh"Given the coaches we have missed out on by renewing Nobles deal can we afford not to throw big money at Smith who is available or risk missing out on further top coaches should we have to put up with another consistently poor 2010?'"
Smith?! Which one?
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| Quote ="AJ"No, he said tonight he wants him to be there next season (and hopes Brian wants to stay - which we know he does), but for that to happen Wigan need to be on form or words to that effect.'"
I think he went a bit further than just being on form. My view was it is now clearer than ever if Noble wins the CC he can have another year. If he doesn't, he's out. That is just my take on it before anyone goes off on one!
If I am right then it is a worthwhile point to consider if we can wait that long, end of August,to decide assuming we beat Wire.
The other interesting thing was IL saying "another year" for Noble. Not another two or three year contract but just another 12 months. Hardly a great offer IMO.
And of course as IL pointed out BN may have his own plans. He may not want just a one year deal if someone else offers a better deal.
Quote IL wants Noble to stay imo, I think their is some hardball from both sides and the deal is being slowed up as a result of our inconsistent league form.'"
If he wants to stay it looks like the best offer is another 12 months based on results.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I think he went a bit further than just being on form. My view was it is now clearer than ever if Noble wins the CC he can have another year. If he doesn't, he's out. That is just my take on it before anyone goes off on one!'"
Could well be the case, my dad shares the same opinion.
Quote ="DaveO"The other interesting thing was IL saying "another year" for Noble. Not another two or three year contract but just another 12 months. Hardly a great offer IMO.'"
Now that I assumed was just him referring him to being there next year, not only for 1 year, but merely to still be there next year.
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| Quote ="AJ"Smith?! Which one?'"
Smith and Brown.
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| Quote ="jonh"Smith and Brown.'"
Quote ="jonh"can we afford not to throw big money at Smith who is available '"
I know Brown was available, I dont understand which Smith is available now?
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| Quote ="AJ"I know Brown was available, I dont understand which Smith is available now?'"
Brian Smith.
We missed out on Tony.
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| Quote ="jonh"Brian Smith.
We missed out on Tony.'"
Right, I knew you couldnt mean Tony, couldn't think for thinking then
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I thought Brian Smith was at Newcastle?'"
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| Quote ="AJ"
Now that I assumed was just him referring him to being there next year, not only for 1 year, but merely to still be there next year.'"
I was pretty certain it was meant as another 12 month deal. We would have to hear it again to be sure but I did think he mentioned 12 months as if that was the offer that would be made.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I was pretty certain it was meant as another 12 month deal. We would have to hear it again to be sure but I did think he mentioned 12 months as if that was the offer that would be made.
Dave'"
I thought he made out it would be a 12month deal.
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| Quote ="AJ"Left some time back if memory serves.'"
Doing a wonderful job at Newcastle, off contract the end of the year. Able to be approached by Sl clubs.
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yeah, again, memory failed, he went to Newcastle didnt he, with Hagan going the other way.
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yeah, again, memory failed, he went to Newcastle didnt he, with Hagan going the other way.
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