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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"Yes and as I said on another thread crowds on Sundays are always much lower than Fridays.'"
Only proving that supporters are now using our games as a fill in on a Weekend and not as a day out experience on the Weekend day like Saturday like they do in Football and Rugby Union.
How many now travel over the Pennines on a Friday Night in each direction to boost crowds at our grounds compared to the number that use to do when all games were played on a Sunday before Sky came on the scene.
Friday Nights may suit home supporters, especially those with no work commitments, but they are doing nothing for those who do work or way support with the exception of local games involving St Helens, Warrington and Wigan on our side of the Pennines or local games between Castleford, Leeds and Wakefield in West Yorkshire or Hull FC and Hull KR on Humberside.
Three younger members of my family have stopped supporting the club as a result of Friday Night games interfering with their work commitments.
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Only proving that supporters are now using our games as a fill in on a Weekend and not as a day out experience on the Weekend day like Saturday like they do in Football and Rugby Union.
How many now travel over the Pennines on a Friday Night in each direction to boost crowds at our grounds compared to the number that use to do when all games were played on a Sunday before Sky came on the scene.
Friday Nights may suit home supporters, especially those with no work commitments, but they are doing nothing for those who do work or way support with the exception of local games involving St Helens, Warrington and Wigan on our side of the Pennines or local games between Castleford, Leeds and Wakefield in West Yorkshire or Hull FC and Hull KR on Humberside.
Three younger members of my family have stopped supporting the club as a result of Friday Night games interfering with their work commitments with one of them now supporting a football club (not the Latics) so that he can experience the match day atmosphere of both home and away games on a Weekend.
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| Well, they'd lose one season ticket sale here if they went to Sundays and I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one. I can manage a few Sundays in a season but very often need to write games off. I don't mind for the occasional game but it's simply uneconomical to do it for more than a couple.
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| But according to ruddy duck would gain thousands
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Friday Nights game are alright for those who do not work...
...If you want to do jobs at home or go to somewhere else for a day out with the family, whats wrong with Saturday unless of course that is reserved for Town Centre Shopping or Supermarket day...
...All Super League games with the exception of those on television should be played on a Sunday Afternoon with a standard 3.00pm kick off, especially now with the traffic problems of going over the M62 in the Friday Night rush hour which has led to less away supporters travelling each way over the Pennines and lower crowds.
The problem today is that the sport is no longer about the supporters, but more about television, sponsorship, corporate dining and shopping.'"
That's the thing - Saturday = Doing stuff that NEEDS to be done every week (shopping, etc.). Sunday is the day to do things that we WANT to do (whether that be working on the house or going out).
There is a reason that the only fan-survey that I know of threw out Friday night as the best time to play games.
(If there was a more recent one, it was not very well advertised).
And as for "alright for those who do not work" - Garbage.
I work until 5:30 or 6pm most days and still make the match just fine.
If it's away at Hull, etc. then I just finish a little early by starting an hour earlier.
Friday night travel = lower crowds... Nope. Sundays (apart from Wakey and Cas, where it is still traditional) get lower attendances across the board.
And as for television, etc. - That only affects the Thursday games (which I personally hate).
Right now, it feels like IFL trying to get more people to hang around in the fan-zone before and after the game, to get a bit more money in, by using Sundays to allow a bit more time.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"To be fair, in or out, it's hard to tell with you though..
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| I'm struggling to really see the downside of Sunday KOs. And even if it is true that Friday night gates average higher than Sunday games, maybe that's because Friday night games have become the norm, so people are adjusting their habits and behaviour to suit? Maybe if Sunday games were more common, crowds would grow?
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| Quote ="moto748"I'm struggling to really see the downside of Sunday KOs.'"
People have already posted them.
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| Quote ="moto748"I'm struggling to really see the downside of Sunday KOs. And even if it is true that Friday night gates average higher than Sunday games, maybe that's because Friday night games have become the norm, so people are adjusting their habits and behaviour to suit? Maybe if Sunday games were more common, crowds would grow?'"
I don’t mind Sunday games but I do like the Friday/Saturday night games (even though the latter tend to be rather than rocking horse dung these days). A good mix of both is best IMO. First and foremost though we need to sack off Thursday night games.
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| Possible minor point to most but it’s much more difficult to fill the corporate lounges on Sunday in my experience.
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| My personal preference:
Fri 7.45pm - Historically most favoured by fans and Corporate.
Sun 3pm - Pretty good this time of year, good for post match revenue in the fan zone.
Sat 6pm - Don't see enough of these anymore. Would love to see this replace Thurs night games, should get bigger crowds and good viewing figures.
Thurs 7.45pm - Crowd killer and held to ransom by SKY, change to Saturday Evening's would be better.
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| Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Anything but Saturday evenings!
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"But according to ruddy duck would gain thousands'"
I did not say that.
How many of those who prefer Friday Nights go to away games other than Salford, St Helens and Warrington?
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| Quote ="Pie Eyed"That's the thing - Saturday = Doing stuff that NEEDS to be done every week (shopping, etc.). Sunday is the day to do things that we WANT to do (whether that be working on the house or going out).
There is a reason that the only fan-survey that I know of threw out Friday night as the best time to play games.
(If there was a more recent one, it was not very well advertised).
And as for "alright for those who do not work" - Garbage.
I work until 5:30 or 6pm most days and still make the match just fine.
If it's away at Hull, etc. then I just finish a little early by starting an hour earlier.
Friday night travel = lower crowds... Nope. Sundays (apart from Wakey and Cas, where it is still traditional) get lower attendances across the board.
And as for television, etc. - That only affects the Thursday games (which I personally hate).
Right now, it feels like IFL trying to get more people to hang around in the fan-zone before and after the game, to get a bit more money in, by using Sundays to allow a bit more time.'"
So now we know, doing the shopping on a Sunday is now more important than watching Rugby League in spite of shops and supermarkets being open more than they use to be and what's the problem with doing the shopping on the tradition day of Saturday, unless of course you are also a football supporter
It was also traditional for Wigan and other clubs in the days of Central Park and also other clubs until Sky came on the scene and geared people to their way of thinking or should I say game scheduling.
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| Over the years in surveys Sundays have been popular, for me they win hands down.
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| Just not as popular as Fridays hence why the club didn't change. Sunday games this season are basically because Latics are at home on Saturday
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| Different days will suit different people and the club are surely doing the best thing by mixing up the days games are held.
Anyway I think there's a good chance this Sunday might be the last home game for a number of weeks/months due to coronavirus.
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| Hope it is on in two weeks Time when we play Catalans the wife and I love Sunday games.
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| Quote ="hatty"Wasn’t the match day/times put to the supporters a few years ago and Friday evenings won hands down?'"
How do you know that Friday Evenings won hands down?
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"How do you know that Friday Evenings won hands down?'"
Because they published the results!
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Different days will suit different people and the club are surely doing the best thing by mixing up the days games are held.
Anyway I think there's a good chance this Sunday might be the last home game for a number of weeks/months due to coronavirus.'"
That is not the best thing for season ticket holders. If game days become more uncertain people will just start buying single tickets when they can get time off work, move other plans, etc.
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| Quote ="hatty"Because they published the results!'"
Only 2,500 voted, so how can you tell that the result was representative of the majority opinion of all the supporters who actually go to games?
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Yes but they also did a bigger survey in 2013
[urlhttps://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2013-08-10-2013-fan-survey[/url
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Yes but they also did a bigger survey in 2013
[urlhttps://www.wiganwarriors.com/news/2013-08-10-2013-fan-survey[/url
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| Quote ="Ruddy Duck"Only 2,500 voted, so how can you tell that the result was representative of the majority opinion of all the supporters who actually go to games?'"
I can't tell, I can only go off what was published. I remember completing both surveys (2013 & 2016) and although I've grown up watching Wigan on Sunday afternoons and that I work mon-fri I still voted for Friday evenings as my preferred match day.
It was interesting to hear Shaun O'loughlin on wish fm this morning, when he was asked about why so many games were being played on sunday he made reference to the new fan zone as one of the reasons.
I don't blame the club for wanting to make money but I wouldn't like to see every home game revert back to Sunday afternoon. I might be selfish here and I don't care, but the weekend is mine & my family time.
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