hahaha, where has the idea come from that blue chip companies will pay less than national companies? it doesn't work like that, bigger companies don't pay less for the privilege of sponsoring a sport team if anything its the complete opposite, bigger budgets and they pay more. www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6770811760 (not sure in the link will work) but could only wish we was in the same position.

hahaha, where has the idea come from that blue chip companies will pay less than national companies? it doesn't work like that, bigger companies don't pay less for the privilege of sponsoring a sport team if anything its the complete opposite, bigger budgets and they pay more. www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6770811760 (not sure in the link will work) but could only wish we was in the same position.

If cohorts exist, then you and your cohort was very aggressive and offensive to anybody who spoke against you last season. You were happy to slap down anybody who disagreed with you, and did not like it when people spoke against you. Typical bullies who cry foul when they get challenged.

You literally can't criticise the club for anything on here without the "Wigan fans moan about anything" brigade having a go. Wigan have just won the double and reading between the lines we have struggled to obtain a main shirt sponsor (the lateness of the shirts being released plus the one year deal). Wev also got a local estate agents as the sponsor.

If it is wigans policy to promote local companies then fair enough, but I think if there was a blue chip company offering a 3 year deal the club would snap their hands off for it. Personally I think the club is run very well on most areas, but obtaining a shirt sponsor is definitely an area that requires improvement.

Nail on head

i agree some fans moan about anything and everything becomes the managements fault, but this one is a complete fail and no amount of sugar coating can stop that. Be interesting to see what the goal was for sponsorship and what we have actually achieved.

How the can you possibly know that it's a complete fail when (correct me if I'm wrong) you have no idea at all about how much money was exchanged or what other options were on the table? I don't usually like to take the 'they must know best' line but IL is a millionaire businessmen and managed to get Warner brothers to sponsor us for a game last season at fairly short notice, making god knows how much money off the 'Superman Shirts' into the bargain.

At risk of sounding like a happy clapper, I think in the time he's been here he has more than earned the benefit of the doubt about decisions we don't know the ins and outs of. Wasn't he being criticised as nothing but a moneygrabber who was only out to "trouser money" 3 months ago?

There you go, if Warner Brothers would sponsor us why settle for a local housing association?

How many bought the shirt because it looked great with the Superman logo on? Would they have bought the shirt if it had Brenda's Barms on the front?

read any of my post and you will see i back IL with pretty much everything but on this occasion its not good enough, by the way i am not even blaming IL its not his job to get a sponsor its the marketing and commercial departments job. All for a local based company sponsoring the club but only if their big enough such as JJB back in the day. seriously how much money could they offer for the sponsorship? compared to companies which have 50million+ every year for marketing?

Evidently Warner Brothers wouldn't sponsor us for a full season, or not at a decent amount of money at any rate. You can't seriously believe we had the option of someone of that calibre with a good amount of money on offer and IL turned it down. He's a shrewd businessman with a massive vested interest in making money for the club. He will surely have made this decision because it was the best option on offer. It's not like blue chip companies have generally been falling over themselves to sponsor RL clubs, have we considered that it's a very difficult thing to do, and that Emirates was a massive one-off?

No I don't think IL turned down an option of that size.

So your telling me 'Houses for Homes' is the best we can do?

The criticism isn't that larger offers from blue chip companies have been turned down in favour of this deal, it's that the Wigan RL brand should be able to attract the best deal possible from more notable sponsors, especially the year after we have just done the double. Nobody knows how much this deal is worth or what other offers were on the table, but on the face of it not enough has been done behind the scenes to attract sponsorship. It's also not the first time it's happened (the 2010 replicas being released without a sponsor because the deal with Mecca bingo hadn't been sorted, for example).

If something wasn't hard to do it wouldn't be worth doing. I am sure emirates didn't just turn up at warrington and said we want to sponsor you, it would of been a lot of hard work to get the right appointments and pitched hard. It just smacks some fans obviously as being a little bit lazy and not capitalizing on a fantastic brand.

The situation's quite simple ... anyone comes on here and takes the mickey out of Wigan RL is going to get short shrift from me, even if they are Wigan fans.

I find it hilarious that someone is moaning about being bullied when those who tried to stay positive during leaner times were given all kinds of stick by the professional whinge merchants. I was accused of being everything from a happy clapper to Ian Lenagan's wife because I wasn't calling for the heads of people who have subsequently gone on to win us trophies. One clown even went batsh7t because, after he accused the club chairman of theft, I had the nerve to single him out for criticism.

The behaviour of some Wigan fans on message boards is frankly embarrassing. Why they are surprised when people express annoyance with them is baffling.

Embarrassing? This thread or in general?

Case in point, riding to Cruncher's defence like the self appointed forum police that you think you are. Adios for a while, methinks.

Oh the irony...

Have to agree. Houses for Homes doesn't really scream double-winning world famous team does it?

I'm not a Wigan fan but I am interested in the business side of RL.

The amount of negativity on this thread is astounding, and tbh if I had my own company I would steer well clear of RL clubs as their fans are never happy with anything.

On your point, this is why it's not worth discussing with many RL fans as they deal in fantasy. Why are you sure Paddypower would sponsor Wigan?

You have basically just picked a company out of thin air and said they would sponsor Wigan.

On the comparisons with my club Warrington, it is worth noting that last year we had a local company sponsoring us - there is absolutely a place for local sponsors and national sponsors.

Paddypower will literally sponsor anything as will most online betting companies, I'm using paddypower as an example. Like Rads says in his book why not take a hit and have Nike make the shirts or Playstation sponsor the Superleague.

At the me of the day RL needs to build on the success of the WC and to do that it needs to look attractive to the heathen, with big sponsors it would help somewhat.

Or Stobarts?
I mean they're a national company so why not take a hit just so we can have them sponsoring us?

PS

As with the kit threads that will inevitably star soon I think some people are more worried about being "embarrassed" by fans of other clubs than anything to do with the commercials etc behind it.
As with the "pink" kit, I couldn't care less if we played in tu-tus and ballet shoes with Leigh cat and dogs home on the front as long as we're winning and the clubs getting stronger.

PPS (with happy clapper alert).

I can't seriously believe anyone is knocking our marketing teams with record crowds and A Profitable club in these difficult financial times?

Yes.

I am convinced we could of attracted a bigger name but I do know that this deal will benefit the local community more than if we had gone for a more well known name and that is more important to the borough and in particular the deprived communities that will benefit.

Wonder how 'Paddypower' would help local communities?

Oh yeh cos estate agents are so well known for their generosity and community spirit aren't they!

Whereas Nike and Coca Cola just pee money up the wall like it's going out of fashion of course. That's how they got so big, a none-aggressive commercial culture

In this case yes they are!

In fact many housing organisations do tremendous work for local deprived communities including educational programmes and funding for community projects.