What about Lee Gillmour in the in leiu of Atkins?

He has always doen a job there when selected at Saints.

I don't think Smith will pick Sinfield over O'Loughlin.

Lockers did a great job for him in the 2007 series win over the Kiwi's and was selected at the first opportunity possible against the French this season over Sinfield.

He also had Sinfield in and out of his side for the World cup and didn't appear convinced by him as an international player.

I think like me Smith realises Sinfield is a fine superleague player but isn't physically upto international Rugbyleague.

Agreed, same with Wilkin.

O Loughlin is Wigan's version of Harry Pinner.

Good points. While I don't think Sean is at the same level as the Australian or New Zealand forwards, he's more of an international player than Sinfield will ever be.
Can't help but think that Sinfield gets a look in because of his kicking.

Yeah Wilkin fits into that bracket aswell. These lads just aren't big enough to dominate tackles against the big Kiwi and Aussie backrowers.

I'd play Ellis, Lockers and Burgess in the backrow and possibly have Westwood on the bench. Westwood is another player thats not as good a superleague player as Wilkin or Sinfield but just suits the international game a whole lot better.

O'Loughlin has teeth though

I don't think there's space for him - you'd have to leave out one of Morley, Peacock, Graham, Carvell or Crabtree and I think all of them deserve a spot in the 17 ahead of Westwood.

I'd leave Crabtree out.

Crabtree would be my question mark.

He'll be a target due to his size and i've always thought he goes missing a little when things get a little rough.

He has improved though and would be in my squad.

The other 4 are definates imo.

Quote ="NickyKiss"Crabtree would be my question mark. He'll be a target due to his size and i've always thought he goes missing a little when things get a little rough.'" Only one way to find out . . . . Carvell's missed tackle stats surprised and worried me in equal measure: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009

Quote ="NickyKiss"Crabtree would be my question mark. He'll be a target due to his size and i've always thought he goes missing a little when things get a little rough.'" Only one way to find out . . . . Carvell's missed tackle stats surprised and worried me in equal measure: www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009

Get Morley to beat him up in training

I would be temted to play Lee Smith full back if Briscoe is injured otherwise I would go

1- Briscoe
2- Fox
3- Smith
4- Senior
5- Hall
6- Tomkins
7- Brough/Burrow
8- Morley
9- Moore/Roby*
10- Peacock
11- Ellis
12- Burgess
13- O'Loughlin

14- Roby/Higham*
15- Graham
16- Crabtree (Second row)
17- Carvell

*Moore hasn't played for a few weeks, would play him V Wales to see how he handles it thn against France and tell him to cut the stupid penalties.

Lets play to our strengths by bashing them with a massive pack, quick PTB and scoots.


Back to the topic, I wouldn't like a kick up the arsse off Pat!!!



Yours in sport T.Smith

I thought Brough was still "Scottish".

Lee Smith off to Union right after leeds campain comes to a end

He changed it I'm sure early on in the year.

As soon as the season ends? No allowance for internationals?

whats the england team got to do with pat richards drop outs??

I have never know there to be allowance for end of season internationals for players going to union.

I;m sure wasps will want him straight away

What does your post have to do with Pat Richards' drop outs or the England team?

i made my contribution at the top of page 2.

i'll contribute to the england team thread when one appears

No.

Smith wouldn't pick him anyway because he's going.

I reckon Tom Briscoe from Hull FC may get picked.

The Aussie Forwards still pi** all over ours!

the biggest ive ever seen, hopefully Briscoe will be parked in the opposite stand this weekend for any dropouts.

Joe Lydons drop goal at main road.

Type that into a well klnown video sharing site.