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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Haha. I don’t think it’ll be a walkover but we should still have enough there. Very light pack for us with only 2 out and out props but we should have too much quality for them.'"
I actually don’t think it’s a bad thing for Saints going forward to have a few injuries (as long as they’re short term). Those lads like Norman, Bennison, Royle, Wingfield etc need minutes in a team where it feels like people expect them to perform and win games, rather than just being rolled out to give others rests, which for any team seems to result in a drop in intensity across the board.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I actually don’t think it’s a bad thing for Saints going forward to have a few injuries (as long as they’re short term). Those lads like Norman, Bennison, Royle, Wingfield etc need minutes in a team where it feels like people expect them to perform and win games, rather than just being rolled out to give others rests, which for any team seems to result in a drop in intensity across the board.'"
Yeah I get you. It’s not like we’ve chosen to make 10 changes and almost accepted a defeat the week before a final whatever. There’ll be an element of pressure tonight. Be interesting to see how they cope. I know you joked about Wingfield the other day in terms of his standing as a 1st teamer but I rate him highly. Hope he gets some good minutes tonight.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Yeah I get you. It’s not like we’ve chosen to make 10 changes and almost accepted a defeat the week before a final whatever. There’ll be an element of pressure tonight. Be interesting to see how they cope. I know you joked about Wingfield the other day in terms of his standing as a 1st teamer but I rate him highly. Hope he gets some good minutes tonight.'"
It was a joke, I do know who the lad is to a point. I can’t say I’ve seen a lot of him but I have heard positive things.
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| So I’m guessing this has been put to bed now?
No Lees, Walmsley, Grace, Hopoate, Mautatia. There’s 5.
Amor can count as 6.
Child absolutely hammered us with six agains.No matter how poor Leeds have been, to nil any SL team is a superb effort
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| Quote ="Stu M"So I’m guessing this has been put to bed now?
No Lees, Walmsley, Grace, Hopoate, Mautatia. There’s 5.
Amor can count as 6.
Child absolutely hammered us with six agains.No matter how poor Leeds have been, to nil any SL team is a superb effort'"
Eh?
The whole talk was a lack of an injury crisis and it’s not that yet is it?!
You do realise Leeds we’re missing Myler, Fusitua, Newman, Sezer, Dwyer. Tetevano, Mellor, Holroyd and Thompson don’t you? And they lost Oledzki and Bentley during the game.
Saints were pretty good tonight but the whole debate has been can Saints do it week to week during an injury crisis. If the other team has one far worse it’s not going to prove a great deal.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Eh?
The whole talk was a lack of an injury crisis and it’s not that yet is it?!
You do realise Leeds we’re missing Myler, Fusitua, Newman, Sezer, Dwyer. Tetevano, Mellor, Holroyd and Thompson don’t you? And they lost Oledzki and Bentley during the game.
Saints were pretty good tonight but the whole debate has been can Saints do it week to week during an injury crisis. If the other team has one far worse it’s not going to prove a great deal.'"
You’re moving the goalposts now. Last week you challenged us to find a single game where we had 5 missing. Tonight we had 6 missing. Yes I know Leeds had players missing too.
We are constantly told we are a one man team. No Walmsley no win.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Eh?
The whole talk was a lack of an injury crisis and it’s not that yet is it?!
You do realise Leeds we’re missing Myler, Fusitua, Newman, Sezer, Dwyer. Tetevano, Mellor, Holroyd and Thompson don’t you? And they lost Oledzki and Bentley during the game.
Saints were pretty good tonight but the whole debate has been can Saints do it week to week during an injury crisis. If the other team has one far worse it’s not going to prove a great deal.'"
Don’t talk sense, did you not know the Saints of 2022 are unbeatable?
I thought it was really encouraging for the other 10 SL sides this evening for 55/60 mins; they’re not unbeatable. And before a Saints fan corrects me, I know Walmsley, Hopoate, Grace, Matauitia et al were missing. I think Catalans will fancy their chances next week.
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| Quote ="Stu M"You’re moving the goalposts now. Last week you challenged us to find a single game where we had 5 missing.
We are constantly told we are a one man team. No Walmsley no win.'"
Don’t go all YG on us mate, it’s been done over and again. The whole debate (as you know) was about how Saints would deal with an injury crisis. That isn’t moving the goalposts at all. One game against a Leeds club with their confidence as low as a snakes belly and missing 9 players (and losing 2 more during the game) is hardly going to settle that debate is it?
As for the one man team thing, I’ve certainly never said that and don’t think that in the slightest (I know you’re not throwing that specifically at me by the way). You beat us in a Grand Final with Walmsley on one leg. Any thoughts of that went west that night.
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| Quote ="Stu M"So I’m guessing this has been put to bed now?
No Lees, Walmsley, Grace, Hopoate, Mautatia. There’s 5.
Amor can count as 6.
Child absolutely hammered us with six agains.No matter how poor Leeds have been, to nil any SL team is a superb effort'"
Not seen the game tonight, why were they missing? Obviously know about Grace who's been a long term injury.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Not seen the game tonight, why were they missing? Obviously know about Grace who's been a long term injury.'"
Not sure with Grace because didn’t he come back last week?
Walmsley being saved for the cup by the sounds of things.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Not seen the game tonight, why were they missing? Obviously know about Grace who's been a long term injury.'"
I can see a pattern....this time last year there would have been a covid breakout at saints (again)
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| Quote ="MattyB"Not seen the game tonight, why were they missing? Obviously know about Grace who's been a long term injury.'"
Grace played his 1st game this season last week against Whitehaven and picked up a leg knock in the last 5 mins.
Walmsley and Matautia have missed every game since Warrington. Hopoate has barely played at all and Lees has missed the last two.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Not sure with Grace because didn’t he come back last week?
Walmsley being saved for the cup by the sounds of things.'"
He’s had a hamstring injury for 3 weeks.
Hopoate also hamstring. As is Matautia I think.
Lees ankle.
Grace went off against Whitehaven.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"He’s had a hamstring injury for 3 weeks.
Hopoate also hamstring. As is Matautia I think.
Lees ankle.
Grace went off against Whitehaven.'"
so will miss next week if its a hamstring
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| Quote ="Pieman"so will miss next week if its a hamstring'"
Why can injuries not improve in the next 8 days haha.
Desperate attempts here tonight to now claim we don’t have injuries we are actually just resting folk
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"He’s had a hamstring injury for 3 weeks.
Hopoate also hamstring. As is Matautia I think.
Lees ankle.
Grace went off against Whitehaven.'"
Oh aye, I know he’s been injured but the update on the box tonight was that they’d decided not to risk it. Makes perfect sense with the cup game next week and then Good Friday coming up.
You could’ve beat Leeds with another 4 or 5 missing tonight (not sure Leeds would’ve scored even if you didn’t bother replacing them).
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Oh aye, I know he’s been injured but the update on the box tonight was that they’d decided not to risk it. Makes perfect sense with the cup game next week and then Good Friday coming up.
You could’ve beat Leeds with another 4 or 5 missing tonight (not sure Leeds would’ve scored even if you didn’t bother replacing them).'"
Their attack is woeful mate. Austin constantly running up blind alleys. Our defence is absolutely superb but they didn’t offer enough quality or variety to worry us.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Their attack is woeful mate. Austin constantly running up blind alleys. Our defence is absolutely superb but they didn’t offer enough quality or variety to worry us.'"
I thought they showed plenty of spirit but yeah, that attack is woeful. It’s not going to get any better for them if Oledzki and Bentley miss many games.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Why can injuries not improve in the next 8 days haha.
Desperate attempts here tonight to now claim we don’t have injuries we are actually just resting folk
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a hamstring wont normally heal in that time...no
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"As you say, it’s subjective. There isn’t a definition for it and unless there is people will never agree.
I don’t think being a top 10 player in a position like wing, when there are two of them, I’d pushing ‘world class’ too far but you do and that’s fair enough. If we’re just saying world class is being good enough to stake a claim for a world 13 (for example) then no way Makinson makes it and dare I say it, but Walmsley doesn’t either (or Bateman).'"
Arguably not world class then
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| Quote ="nathan_rugby"Arguably not world class then'"
one of them was named best second row in the NRL though so probably best in the world at that time.....
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| Quote ="Pieman"one of them was named best second row in the NRL though so probably best in the world at that time.....'"
Bateman was world class at Canberra but he isn’t now at Wigan.
That isn’t to say he cannot regain that status but at the minute he’s in the good to very good status with excellent and world class still ahead of him.
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| Quote ="nathan_rugby"Bateman was world class at Canberra but he isn’t now at Wigan.
That isn’t to say he cannot regain that status but at the minute he’s in the good to very good status with excellent and world class still ahead of him.'"
world class is world class, thats like saying Lewis wasnt world class as his Wakefield stint wasnt the best, form is temporary class is permanent
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| Quote ="Pieman"a hamstring wont normally heal in that time...no'"
It’s been healing for 3 weeks since he did it.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Their attack is woeful mate. Austin constantly running up blind alleys. Our defence is absolutely superb but they didn’t offer enough quality or variety to worry us.'"
Frankly I’m surprised Wolfe didn’t order a round of tea and digestives midway through the first half I doubt Leeds would have hot past the team sat down and Roby playing “mother” pouring the tea so abject Leeds where…and to think pundits had them down for silverware mainly it seems on the back of a few very dodgy signings.
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