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| Quote ="Cruncher"You're very wrong about the upgrades. All the club's best juniors have had their wages upped from peanuts to quite respectable levels since IL took over. That's definitely one thing we can't complain about him for.'"
Don't get me wrong I think IL is doing a fantastic job on the whole especially with the junior development and that hard work will pay off ten fold in the next few years and way beyond, I'm not just your typical moaner who wants everything I am happy with our squad we really need a prop like Morley/Peacock/Webb which is there for everone to see.
Maybe a change of coach might bring Fielden back to his best?
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| Quote ="LovesToSpooge"It states in League Weekly today, that the McGuire deal is nearly done, we've apparently already cleared McGuire with the RFL and there happy for him to be over here were just now waiting for his visa to be accepted.
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Apologies, I know everyone has a 'close source' story but the above is exactly what my close source told me tonight.
Shaun Wane will be his number 2 for two years with the intention being that he steps up when McGuire moves on.
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| Sounds like we'll be the first club ever to have three joint coaches:
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I know who my money would be on if there was a disagreement.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Sounds like we'll be the first club ever to have three joint coaches:
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I know who my money would be on if there was a disagreement.'"
Was that one be who worn the famous cherry and white jersey with pride?
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Sounds like we'll be the first club ever to have three joint coaches:
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| Quote ="Jimmy Birts Lives On"Apologies, I know everyone has a 'close source' story but the above is exactly what my close source told me tonight.
Shaun Wane will be his number 2 for two years with the intention being that he steps up when McGuire moves on.'"
That will do for me, gratefull for what Noble has done for us but it's time to move on for both parties and I'm sure every fan feels the same.
New coach, new ideas, fresh slate for the players so roll on next year! After we win the GF of course.
We need Hampo as conditioner to whip them into shape. No offence to Forshaw he himself looks the picture of health and fitness but since he took over we look really unfit. Warrington looked the same when he was there too.
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| Quote ="Jimmy Birts Lives On"Apologies, I know everyone has a 'close source' story but the above is exactly what my close source told me tonight.
Shaun Wane will be his number 2 for two years with the intention being that he steps up when McGuire moves on.'"
I would hope Maguire would be around longer than 2 years
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| Quote ="Jimmy Birts Lives On"Apologies, I know everyone has a 'close source' story but the above is exactly what my close source told me tonight.
Shaun Wane will be his number 2 for two years with the intention being that he steps up when McGuire moves on.'"
I really hope this is true!!!!!!!
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| I don't know if this is true but my mate who went in the bar after the game on Sunday claims that Shaun Wane was asked the question by a fan is he the new head coach of Wigan. Shaun grinned and said "I can't say anything yet!" more or less suggesting he is. Can anyone else recall or confirm this?
P.s don't shoot the messenger, just what my mate said!
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| I know very little about Wane (as a coach) and even less about McGuire.
What I will say is that if we appoint either, then it's a very big gamble by IL.
One word. Unproven.
There is a very real danger that two above will get torn to shreds by the more experienced coaches out there.
As I said before I do not want next season to be a "learning curve" for a new coach.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"I know very little about Wane (as a coach) and even less about McGuire.
What I will say is that if we appoint either, then it's a very big gamble by IL.
One word. Unproven.
There is a very real danger that two above will get torn to shreds by the more experienced coaches out there.
As I said before I do not want next season to be a "learning curve" for a new coach.'"
Who would you have gone for? Realistic coaches only please.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Who would you have gone for? Realistic coaches only please.'"
I dont have a problem with wane, could be like Mike Gregory was. Back him, lets have done with it and look forward.
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| Quote ="post"We need Hampo as conditioner to whip them into shape.'"
Steve Hampson doesn't work as a conditioner anymore. He was on BBC Radio Manchester a few months ago (talking about Steve Prescott's challenge) and talked about how he has retrained and is now doing something connected with Health & Safety. He does safety courses IIRC
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| Quote ="wiganermike"Steve Hampson doesn't work as a conditioner anymore. He was on BBC Radio Manchester a few months ago (talking about Steve Prescott's challenge) and talked about how he has retrained and is now doing something connected with Health & Safety. He does safety courses IIRC'"
I heard that. However he also said he'd be open to getting back into the game, which suggests he hasn't given up the conditioning side completely.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Who would you have gone for? Realistic coaches only please.'"
I can't answer that as I am not in the position of being a Chairman who is on the lookout for a new coach.
I don't know how much money IL offered other coaches, nor do I know their availability.
What I do know is that this is Wigan RL that we are talking about here, not St Pat's second team.
Wigan RL is the biggest club side in the world and we need, and deserve, the best coach that money can buy.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"I can't answer that as I am not in the position of being a Chairman who is on the lookout for a new coach.
I don't know how much money IL offered other coaches, nor do I know their availability.
Wigan RL is the biggest club side in the world and we need, and deserve, the best coach that money can buy.'"
Maybe we have got the best our money could buy.
As you said, you're not the chairman so have no idea how much we had or have to play with.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Maybe we have got the best our money could buy.
As you said, you're not the chairman so have no idea how much we had or have to play with.'"
Agreed.
However, as I have said this is Wigan RL we are talking about. Any chairman who runs the club has to be expected to pay for the calibre of coach that that name requires.
Given the CC, chairmen effectively get to run the club "on the cheap" as the amount they are able to pay players is limited.
Is it too much to ask that the chairman of the biggest club side in the world puts his hand in his pocket and secures the best possible coach that money can buy?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Agreed.
However, as I have said this is Wigan RL we are talking about. Any chairman who runs the club has to be expected to pay for the calibre of coach that that name requires.
Given the CC, chairmen effectively get to run the club "on the cheap" as the amount they are able to pay players is limited.
Is it too much to ask that the chairman of the biggest club side in the world puts his hand in his pocket and secures the best possible coach that money can buy?'"
It could come down to who was available. Ideally we'd all want a Wayne Bennett but if they're not willing to leave the drab weather in Aus and come to sunny England, what can we do?
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| Quote ="Pemps"It could come down to who was available. Ideally we'd all want a Wayne Bennett but if they're not willing to leave the drab weather in Aus and come to sunny England, what can we do?'"
Could well be. We will never know I guess.
The point I am making is that I really hope that IL has tried everything to secure us a proven world class coach and not just tried to "do a deal on the cheap".
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Could well be. We will never know I guess.
The point I am making is that I really hope that IL has tried everything to secure us a proven world class coach and not just tried to "do a deal on the cheap".'"
With the clubs that have supposedly been sniffing around McGuire, I don't think he'll be coming on the cheap.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Could well be. We will never know I guess.
The point I am making is that I really hope that IL has tried everything to secure us a proven world class coach and not just tried to "do a deal on the cheap".'"
I'm sure we'll soon find out if he has.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Could well be. We will never know I guess.
The point I am making is that I really hope that IL has tried everything to secure us a proven world class coach and not just tried to "do a deal on the cheap".'"
Wasn't Monie in effect an unproven quantity as a head coach before he came too?
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| No, afaik he was coach of Parramatta after Jack Gibson left, and won the league in 86 there.
A tryless 4-2 Grand final no less
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| Yes, Monie came from the Eels, where he won the league.
Graeme Lowe had only coached Queensland Cup before he came to us.
Graeme West didn't get the job due to his coaching resume.
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| Monie is still my joint favourite coach, and not for anything he achieved while coaching us, but rather for his ability to talk and analyse the game, providing great insight. The other is Bennett for much the same reason along with his ability to make the tough and often unpopular decisions for the good of his club.
If I was a young and upcoming coach, i'd spend as much time listening to these two guys as possible. I hope if Wane does get the job, that he can get some support and advice from such greats of the game.
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