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| Quote ="DaveO"What was the result when Leeds beat Saints this year in the play-offs? And v Wigan last year?
Leeds are the most unworthy "champions" in the entire history of the game. I suspect you know this also.'"
I think unworthy is unfair dave, granted the system is flawed , but Leeds have proven again that they know how to win big games and achieve success....you can only go out and do your best in the format that is laid out , and thats what Leeds have done...they ahve achieved what everyone else set out to do , so unworthy...definately not
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| Quote ="Gary High"Champions from 5th = minus 5 credibility (imagine what it will be like if one day 8th was to be crowned as CHAMPIONS)
The reason SL (and RL in general) is in the gutter lies in the hands of those at the RFL.'"
Thats the system.
The New York Giants won the superbowl last season but had unspectacular pre playoff form. No loss of credibility there? That's because they accept the system and people gear for that one game. Whole seasons are planned to generate that one special moment.
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| Quote ="DaveO"They don't play the system better. Anyone who thinks they engineered this is living in cloud cuckoo land.
They have benefited from the system as it stands. There is a BIG difference.'"
I'm sorry but how have they benefited? Its a benefit playing every week away at Wigan and Catalans and then beating the 2nd placed side in the final? Thats cuckoo land.
Its blindingly obvious to me that Leeds peak at the right time. They do what they need to get in the play offs then back their talent to beat anyone else in them.
They've had it harder than we and Wire have this season and last.
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| Quote They don't play the system better. Anyone who thinks they engineered this is living in cloud cuckoo land.
They have benefited from the system as it stands. There is a BIG difference.'"
Exactly! It really is that simple. And no-one is blaming them, as some are suggesting.
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| End of the day it will be my team with that big shiny "Champions" badge on their arm (again) next season so I couldn't give a monkeys what you lot think of the play offs,
Have a nice xmas, see you all next year!
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| Quote ="DaveO"What was the result when Leeds beat Saints this year in the play-offs? And v Wigan last year?
Leeds are the most unworthy "champions" in the entire history of the game. I suspect you know this also.'"
What a load of rubbish
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| Maybe 2013 will be the Year of the Pies?
With signings like Matty Smith and Blake Green you are making efforts to close the gap between yourselves and the top clubs and I am sure with your great crop of youngsters that are always coming through, Wigan have every chance of being competitive next year.
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| For me it's not so much credibility, it's a money concern for me.
My worry is fans adapting to the system the same way the players have. If the fans start to only turn up for derbies and playoffs, then the money will float away from the game and the game will crash.
This may never happen and maybe it's a fear that will never come true. But you can see the arguement about why fans should not bother in the weekly rounds.
As for the players playing the system, that's fine, it's the rules we have.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Maybe 2013 will be the Year of the Pies?
With signings like Matty Smith and Blake Green you are making efforts to close the gap between yourselves and the top clubs and I am sure with your great crop of youngsters that are always coming through, Wigan have every chance of being competitive next year.'"
2/10 and even thats generous!
Which ickle fish do you think your going to catch with this?
Flattering to deceive throughout the year but rubbish in october.
Maybe youll be better next year?
Another year older times running out?
Am i talking about sally's fishing attempts or the wolfs league title chances?
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| That was the worst post I've seen of Sally's.
Have you ever seen the wire win the league?
I think my grandad might of!!!
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| Quote ="Gary High"Champions from 5th = minus 5 credibility (imagine what it will be like if one day 8th was to be crowned as CHAMPIONS)
The reason SL (and RL in general) is in the gutter lies in the hands of those at the RFL.'"
Its not like a team winning the league from 8th has ever happend in this country is it?
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| Quote ="sergeant pepper"Thats the system.
The New York Giants won the superbowl last season but had unspectacular pre playoff form. No loss of credibility there? That's because they accept the system and people gear for that one game. Whole seasons are planned to generate that one special moment.'"
You clearly have no idea how the NFL works.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Its not like a team winning the league from 8th has ever happend in this country is it?'"
Was that Dewsbury when Stevo played for them in the 1970s?
I think Wire finished top that year, I bet our fans were proper mickeyed off at that.
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| Have you ever seen the Wire win the league?
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| ahhh I was looking farward to these threads
All joking and bantering aside..
We all know Wire are far from a liked team in super league. However as much as we annoy you and as much as some of our fans are tasteless, (every team has them, c'mon admit it ) I think it would be wrong to say we didn't deserve it, the past 3 seasons I've seen a massive turn around in our team. And though we didn't win I'm still mega proud of the boys.
See you all next year for a snotting at the DW!!
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Maybe 2013 will be the Year of the Pies?
With signings like Matty Smith and Blake Green you are making efforts to close the gap between yourselves and the top clubs and I am sure with your great crop of youngsters that are always coming through, Wigan have every chance of being competitive next year.'"
Why so serious?
I've been waiting to say that for a while hahahaha.
But honestly Sally, Rainclouds are still chasing you.. and down they have poured!
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| Quote ="WarriorSteve"Have to agree Gary.
It needs changing and changing quick. Who cares whether a few teams in 8th or 9th have a chance to make the playoffs. It more important that the teams who have put in the most effort all year, deserve a definate advantage of being champions. I say 1st V 2nd for the grand final.'"
But then you will moaning if the team finishing second beat the first.
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| great game from the two best teams in the league
well done Leeds
World club champions and now Grand Final winners and still not deemed worthy enough to crowned ‘team of the year’!
only in RL
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| Given wire had just 2 home grown playersin their 17 tonight Cooper and wood it lookasl ike they cant even buy a title
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"Given wire had just 2 home grown playersin their 17 tonight Cooper and wood it lookasl ike they cant even buy a title'"
Chris Riley? Ben Harrison is too isn't he? Just he left and came back.
Not one to stick up for wire but we need to play fair lol
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"Given wire had just 2 home grown playersin their 17 tonight Cooper and wood it lookasl ike they cant even buy a title'"
They have a few more than that but the GUN players (hodgson morley et al) have all been bought in.
Will they be back at old trafford? will they finally end their 57 (now going to be at least 5icon_cool.gif year wait for the title? Who knows, but they'll have the same team next year, and none of their rivals look significantly stronger, although saints will be an uknown quanitity with the new coach and hull are bound to come good soon the amount of players they are brining in.
So I feel they may be back, but next season will be a whole new ball game and none of the other teams are going to roll over just because they feel it should be their time.
Overturning 58 years without a title is going to be tremendously difficult for them.
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| Fair play to Leeds, I don't think they intend on finishing 5th but they are a team made of champion players who produce champion performances. However the play off system needs to be looked at. There is no advantage for the team who finishes top and that is wrong. The RFL have devalued finishing top of the league unfortunately
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| You never know. Leeds winning it from 5th again may just force the super league chiefs into changing something. Credibility for the sport is waning and something needs doing and quick.
The way Stevo and Eddie big the system up though i doubt anything will happen.
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