And they wonder why there's a lot of mistrust in the way the clubs run, in 1 sentance saying we haven't the money despite Hastings leaving but then offered more than what Hastings was on to get Williams. Somethings not right.

Who is "We"? I thought you were done with the club.

There are a lot of people dissatisfied with the club at present, but I honestly don't know what sort of goal you think you're working towards.

First of all, the Lenagans will clearly only relinquish control of Wigan RL when they are good and ready. They have already given that assurance. So your endless attempts to spread disdain and suspicion are a total waste of time and effort ... no one's going to tear them down on your say-so, even if that was possible. Secondly, they've been pretty effective up until now, and there's no guarantee that whoever takes charge of the club after them will be; Whelan was richer than Ian Lenagan, but look what a pig's ear he made of it. Thirdly, all these endless aspersions you cast are based on minimal knowledge of what's actually going on. No one at Wigan is required to publicise the fine details of financial arrangements with players, agents etc, so all this nod-nod wink-wink thing you specialise in is laughable. It's based on pure, prejudiced guesswork ... and mate, it's as transparent as glass.

You keep threatening to leave. So why don't you go and do it? Then you'll be happy.

Where did you get that I wanted the Lenegans to leave? Yet you accuse me of fabricating things?

They said in the forum that fans expect a lot of money to be left over when Hastings leaves but the reality is there won't be, well in that case how did we offer Williams the biggest contract ever at Wigan if money is tight?

Who has threatened to leave? I can quite happily voice my views, freedom of speech and all that.

Again more snot postings. I'll expect a snotty reply from you in a weeks time which is par for the course.

Only just seen this.

I went into depth a while back, I'm not against anti-racism. Just because you don't support something doesn't mean you are against it. It's like having a badge to say you are not homophobic, so on that basis people who don't wear the badge are homophobic are they? What tosh and its the same with this.

Your position isn't that though is it?

What your actually saying is, your refusing to be served or buy a product from the person wearing that Anti Homophobia badge.
If you went to a restaurant, or a pub, etc and one of the staff or the pub itself displayed an Anti Homophobia message would you refuse to eat/drink or buy a product from there?

Making an analogy doesn't mean that your analogy is accurate

Was about to write pretty much exactly what Jukes has written I.e. 'presumably you wouldn't boycott anyone who wears a pride badge?'

If I ran a pub, resaurant or business and somebody turned up for work displaying any form of support for a politcal cause then I would ask them to remove said paraphernalia regardless of what they supported.

It isn't political. HTH

Thats not what I asked
Are you saying you would not attend, purchase, frequent etc any venue, business, product if that particular business displayed an anti homophobia, racism, etc message?

You know us as a club can show we are not racists by not being racists and punishing any racist comments or actions commited by fans, staff and players alike. But in the 30 years of me going to games I've never once heard any form of racist slur or abuse. In fact I'd say rugby league always has been a very tolerant sport both fans and players alike because we as a sport have always been outcasts anyway when compared to football, cricket, union etc.

You just said just because I used an analogy doesn't make it right and are making your own point with an analogy.

If I went to Galloways every Saturday for a pie barm and then all of a sudden they stopped concetrating on making pies, got all political and started preaching about political struggles then I'd go to Greenalghs.

If Galloways had a sticker on their window that said we support LGBT would you stop going there?

With regards to taking knee, are you saying Wigan's BAME players are preaching about political struggles? It isn't political, its their lives, their upbringing, their experiences.

In this simple view, if everyone who was not racist continued doing so and didn't go to extra efforts to try to make a difference then nothing would change...

Yip
Because your analogy wasn't a correct comparison to your stance with Wigan

Your analogy was that you would let someone else wear an anti homophobic badge and whilst you support anti homophobia without wearing a badge.

Your stance currently with Wigan though is that you won't support anyone who wears the badge i.e. Wigan and/or the players & not that you won't let them get on with it because they feel the need to and you yourself won't wear the badge, which im sure everyone would be fine with, you want them to stop wearing the badge.
So your analogy was incorrect.

What makes you say "stopped concentrating on making pies" ? You do realise they're not mutually exclusive?
You can do both

Anyway, you've answered my question, you just want people to get on with things and any issues they have not interfere with anything you do/buy etc?
I could go on but I won't

Not your arguement

I find the term BAME racist.

The players can wear whatever they want in their own time, whilst wearing ths cherry and white hoops I don't want anyone using ths club as a platform to promote what I believe a political issue no matter how relevant it is whether its supporting a politcal party, striking workers, the NHS, leave or remain, a rise in minimum wage, justice for someone wrongly imprisoned, or campaigning against the removal of the Marus Bridge roundabout.

What's political about the NHS???

Good job you've boycotted the club then. The Emergency Services game against Catalans when the players take the knee would really get your blood boiling.

You know very well that the NHS can be viewed as a political issue with regards the privatisation and funding issues coupled with low pay for certain staff and too many managers etc. That's what I mean by it being a political issue.

F*** me!! In that case everything is political because it can be brought up in parliament.

If we're sponsored by WWL NHS Trust next season and have their branding on the shirt will you stop going?

How about the league being sponsored by a gambling company. That leads to addiction, crime, homelessness etc etc. People are always campaigning for their MP to bring in tighter controls on gambling.

Think I might stop watching rugby until the sport is no longer sponsored by a gambling firm and I won't support any player that may have ever played a game of poker.

Wait till he finds out the reason rugby league was born in the first place

Post has spoken with Marcus Rashford over Zoom

Ok, far too many piling in to fend off each reply.

Hypothetical question, George Floyd doesn't die last year, do Wigan Warriors kneel before every game this season?