If the cap were just raised you could guarantee the money would find its way to into the pockets of some average overseas players. At least this way it goes to home grown talent.

It also ought to make it easier for smaller clubs to keep their own, home grown, star players because if say a player form Cas left for Wigan then he would not be eligible for the "Sam Tomkins deal" because Wigan didn't produce him.

The only problem for smaller clubs is if they have no home grown star players because they have a rubbish youth set up. And lets fact it we are into the 2nd round of franchises already and have had the flat rate cap for even longer so they have no excuse to be lagging behind in this department. So if they are disadvantaged because they have no eligible players, who's fault is that?

Exactly. I'm so tired of clubs who use innovative methods to grow their crowds, develop new income streams and attract and recruit lots of local young talent being accused of making things hard for other clubs. Professional sport is a competition, it is not about fairness or level playing fields. It's about time some of these smaller clubs, whose failures seem to have dictated the direction of the British game in the last 10 years, were reminded that with inclusion in SL there is a responsibility to contribute to the game's wealth.

couldnt agree more with that

Decent article on the man himself. www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/a ... um=twitter

Decent article on the man himself. www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/a ... um=twitter

Lots of praise for young Sam on our board [Leigh, on the England thread, saying again what a fine game he had, well done Sam.

After his performance this evening and against Austalia last week, I think Sam's in with a real chance of winning the Golden boot this year, particularly if he can put in another sterling performance in the final. He's been nothing short of outstanding in every game so far in this year's 4N.

Thankgod the lad is ours (for now)

Amazing again tonight, the break in the 1st half was fantastic!!!

The best player in either code in this country by a mile.

Well done to your chairman for keeping him in RL.

Certainly he's the player of the 4 nations so far.

If he'd won the MOS that should have been his he'd have rightfully have been in for the Golden boot but sadly not due to that.

What a talent though.

One error tonight could have been costly and could have had us on the back foot early doors... but after that I thought he was man of the Match With Ben Westwood second ....

Sinfield improved on last week but he was no where near man of the match he didnt "guide" us round the pitch at all.....luckily some ordinary kicks that wouldnt have tested the Crusaders were dealt with terribly by the Kiwis, which is why some Leeds fans will say "ohhhh he set up every try and his kicking game was amazing...."

not for me at stand off i'm afraid....

cant argue with that.

brilliant tonight.

i don't see a better runner of the ball in rugby.

real natural ability.... its a pleasure to watch...normally im shouting 'SMASH HIM'...... you get a real feel for tomkins ability when you are cheering for him to do well.

I'm really pleased that Sam has done so well in this tournament so far. If it had all gone wrong for England then I'm sure Sam would have been at the forefront of most of the criticism. It's nice to see him getting deserved praise from opposition fans too. We Wigan fans have been lucky enough to get performances like we have seen over the last month, for the last two seasons and I hope they continue. Outstanding player.

Couldn't make it to Hull last night, was wandering if there was any boos from the crowd towards Sam? Didn't hear any on television. There were some at Wembley before the game. Will there be any next week from the morons or has he done enough now to silence the kn0bs?

Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Decent article on the man himself. www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/a ... um=twitter'" I'm not so sure about the way the booing was described, Saints didn't really boo as the Wigan crowed ironically booed on his first try. A couple of games with the Wigan crown booing knocked the opposition fan's boos on the head.

Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Decent article on the man himself. www.nzherald.co.nz/league/news/a ... um=twitter'" I'm not so sure about the way the booing was described, Saints didn't really boo as the Wigan crowed ironically booed on his first try. A couple of games with the Wigan crown booing knocked the opposition fan's boos on the head.

Another great performance last night. It seems even better watching him play like that when it is safe in the knowledge that he is going no where in the next few years.

Not towards Sam, Carvell got a few comedy ones though

Chairman on Sam and Joel. www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news Some interesting tit bits in it.

Chairman on Sam and Joel. www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news Some interesting tit bits in it.

Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Chairman on Sam and Joel. www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news Some interesting tits in it.'" Edited

Quote ="LovesToSpooge"Chairman on Sam and Joel. www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news Some interesting tits in it.'" Edited

A tit you were no doubt giddily cheering on last night, like we all were.

I wasn't giddy last night but I was cheering him on and thought he played very well.

I've never doubted his ability and have said he's world class a number of times.

I'm also glad he stayed in league.

I'm going to wash my mouth out now

should have been Roby .

Tomkins has recovered his early season form that seemed to desert him post cup-final , thank god .

Interesting to see how the crowd got agitated everytime he got smacked yesterday, welcome to our world!

He was carrying an arm injury for the last 5-6 weeks of the season

Funny how so many people have become fans of Sam.... Even our friends from Leeds.... Now they know why we have resented the abuse he has recieved.